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Old 12-21-2012, 07:43 PM
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Re: All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!!

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Who is denying this? That is without question. But the fact that God filled Cornelius with the Spirit before he was baptized blows away the idea that "the blood is applied at baptism". The blood was applied when "Christ entered in for us" according to the book of Hebrew. We simply embrace that work by faith through repentance/water baptism. But it is obvious here that God bent his own order out of necessity, to prove that he had shed his blood for Gentiles as well. In other words, God "saved" Cornelius before water baptism. This is a case of God "calling those things that are not as if though they were". Cornelius would not have gone to hell if he had dropped dead just before he reached the water. But again, this was the exception and not the rule. We have no right to pray for people to receive the Holy Ghost until they are baptized and the story of Cornelius is not a license to do so.
So ol' legalist Peter had the audacity to order Cornelius & his house to baptized in Jesus' name immediately....But he was already "saved"? The verb translated "command(ed)" denotes, "to make special haste" as defined by Greek grammarians.

Peter was guilty of "burying the living"??

Also, I can absolutely prove to the honest in heart right here that Cornelius was NOT saved at Spirit baptism alone (see John 3:3-5)!

Ready?

The angel specifically stated that Peter would tell Cornelius "words by which you will be saved" (Ac. 11.14).


Tell us, did Peter's command to be water baptized in Jesus' Name frame part of his "words" to Cornelius, yes or no:_____________?


If yes, then according to the heavenly messenger his "words" relative to "salvation" included a command to be water baptized in Jesus' name....Or will you tell us that biblical commandments are not necessary for salvation ??

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