Ripped pages out of the bible!

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Let brotherly love continue!

Amen!

I'm just yanking Mr. Howsten's (SoHo) chain.............

[AreYouReady?]

I was once on a forum where a catholic minister denounced most of Peters and Pauls writings.

He denounced half of the writings of the gospels....calling them gnosticism.

He went on to discuss the ancient hebrews had many god and that they called their god's "el"

By the time he was finished, he ended up saying that most of the old testament was fairy tale and that the events probably never happened.

And I am thinking...you are a minister of the gospel?

[trialedbyfire]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

I was once on a forum where a catholic minister denounced most of Peters and Pauls writings.

He denounced half of the writings of the gospels....calling them gnosticism.

He went on to discuss the ancient hebrews had many god and that they called their god's "el"

By the time he was finished, he ended up saying that most of the old testament was fairy tale and that the events probably never happened.

And I am thinking...you are a minister of the gospel?

That's not what I'd been thinking,

woulda been more along the lines of then what in the world am I doing here in this stuffy church for?

Let's go a clubbin!

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

I was once on a forum where a catholic minister denounced most of Peters and Pauls writings.

He denounced half of the writings of the gospels....calling them gnosticism.

He went on to discuss the ancient hebrews had many god and that they called their god's "el"

By the time he was finished, he ended up saying that most of the old testament was fairy tale and that the events probably never happened.

And I am thinking...you are a minister of the gospel?

That's just the way dem Catlicks are....

First they start with with water baptism and mess that up, then on to the Godhead and they mess that up.

ANYTHING and EVERYTHING dem Catlicks ever touch they polute....

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

That's just the way dem Catlicks are....

First they start with with water baptism and mess that up, then on to the Godhead and they mess that up.

ANYTHING and EVERYTHING dem Catlicks ever touch they polute....

Can you image if dem catlicks went to Utah

[seekerman]

Dem oneness pentecostals sho do like dem catlick way of doin' tings doe. Dey ain't quite up to catlick par wit dem buildins' day call 'churches' and dem preachers who teach dem peoples that dier salvation hinges on dem preachers performance durin' de dunkin'. Dey try to be like dem catlick priests, sho nuff!!

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Dem oneness pentecostals sho do like dem catlick way of doin' tings doe. Dey ain't quite up to catlick par wit dem buildins' day call 'churches' and dem preachers who teach dem peoples that dier salvation hinges on dem preachers performance durin' de dunkin'. Dey try to be like dem catlick priests, sho nuff!!

Been in the church all my life and have NEVER heard of this............

[Sam]

Years ago, Roman Catholics used to teach that if a person wasn't baptized Roman Catholic, he was not baptized properly and therefore was not born again or born of water. A modern counterpart is another group, not RCC but UPC that teaches if someone is not baptized according to UPC teaching, the person is not born again or born of water.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Sam

Years ago, Roman Catholics used to teach that if a person wasn't baptized Roman Catholic, he was not baptized properly and therefore was not born again or born of water. A modern counterpart is another group, not RCC but UPC that teaches if someone is not baptized according to UPC teaching, the person is not born again or born of water.

So, the UPCI's teaching on water baptism is wrong?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

So, the UPCI's teaching on water baptism is wrong?

There is no one/single UPCI teaching on water baptism. There are several different teachings within the UPC on water baptism. These various teachings go the gamut from the idea that water baptism is what Jesus referred to as "born of water" in John 3:5 (the Roman Catholic teaching) to the teaching that water baptism is a symbolic public burial of the old person you used to be and a testimony that you believe int the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Then there are those who look at baptism as a symbolic washing and others who believe that sins are not remitted/forgiven/washed away until a person has been baptized with the "proper" words by a being spoken by a minister. Then there are several different "formulas" used in water baptism in the UPC. Some which teach that the 3 words "Lord" plus "Jesus" plus "Christ" equal one name and others which use the name "Jesus" with or without various titles such as "Lord" or "Christ" or "Father" or "Son" or "Holy Ghost." Therefore I cannot say that "the UPCI's teaching on water baptism is wrong" or right since there are differences in teaching within the organization.