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01-03-2013, 11:01 AM
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Re: Mandatory Flu Vaccine
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
Heh. Goshen is the region I am originally from.
My answer to that is if patients with compromised immune systems are so vulnerable, the flu shot that they take should protect them. If the flu shot does not protect them, then the shot is clearly ineffective and should not be forced upon people.
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But nobody really cared about the "safety of the patients" enough to make it mandatory before. Now that reimbursement dollars are connected to "patient safety" it is mandatory. Telling.
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01-03-2013, 11:23 AM
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Re: Mandatory Flu Vaccine
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But nobody really cared about the "safety of the patients" enough to make it mandatory before. Now that reimbursement dollars are connected to "patient safety" it is mandatory. Telling.
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01-03-2013, 02:33 PM
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Re: Mandatory Flu Vaccine
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01-03-2013, 02:42 PM
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Re: Mandatory Flu Vaccine
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I was upset when my son's school MADE him get a chicken pox vaccine. The chicken pox never hurt us. But the flu vaccine???? My grandpa almost died after getting it, it made him so sick.
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A few years ago I saw a neighbor who lived a street over who I had not seen in a while. I said, _____, I haven't seen you in quite a while, "How are you". She said she got a
flu shot and it made her so sick she thought she was going to die". She had been in the hospital. The next week I found out _____ had died!
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01-03-2013, 03:42 PM
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Re: Mandatory Flu Vaccine
http://news.yahoo.com/nurses-fired-r...ws-health.html
An Indiana hospital has fired eight employees, including at least three veteran nurses, after they refused mandatory flu shots, stirring up controversy over which should come first: employee rights or patient safety. The hospital imposed mandatory vaccines, responding to rising concerns about the spread of influenza.
Ethel Hoover wore all black on her last day of work as a nurse in the critical care unit at Indiana University Health Goshen Hospital. She said she was in "mourning" because she would have been at the hospital 22 years in February, and she's only called out of work four or five times in her whole career , she said.
"This is my body. I have a right to refuse the flu vaccine," Hoover, 61, told ABCNews.com. "For 21 years, I have religiously not taken the flu vaccine, and now you're telling me that I believe in it."
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01-03-2013, 03:43 PM
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Re: Mandatory Flu Vaccine
Which begs the question, since the SC decided women had rights to abortion, (my body, my choice ) why can't people refuse flu shots?
After all, it is injecting a foreign substance into our bodies.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-03-2013, 04:32 PM
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Re: Mandatory Flu Vaccine
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Originally Posted by Falla39
A few years ago I saw a neighbor who lived a street over who I had not seen in a while. I said, _____, I haven't seen you in quite a while, "How are you". She said she got a
flu shot and it made her so sick she thought she was going to die". She had been in the hospital. The next week I found out _____ had died!
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Now that I have been openly discussing this issue I have been hearing things like this repeatedly. The incidents don't seem so isolated and seem under-reported.
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01-03-2013, 04:33 PM
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Re: Mandatory Flu Vaccine
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Originally Posted by Cindy
http://news.yahoo.com/nurses-fired-r...ws-health.html
An Indiana hospital has fired eight employees, including at least three veteran nurses, after they refused mandatory flu shots, stirring up controversy over which should come first: employee rights or patient safety. The hospital imposed mandatory vaccines, responding to rising concerns about the spread of influenza.
Ethel Hoover wore all black on her last day of work as a nurse in the critical care unit at Indiana University Health Goshen Hospital. She said she was in "mourning" because she would have been at the hospital 22 years in February, and she's only called out of work four or five times in her whole career , she said.
"This is my body. I have a right to refuse the flu vaccine," Hoover, 61, told ABCNews.com. "For 21 years, I have religiously not taken the flu vaccine, and now you're telling me that I believe in it."
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The thing is that "patient safety" has only become so "important" since reimbursement dollars for medicare/medicaid have been tied into vaccine compliance.
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01-05-2013, 09:08 AM
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Re: Mandatory Flu Vaccine
My school has reimbursed me. Yay! I am happy for that but am still not impressed by the situation and what I had to go through. They are supposed to have some discussions about this at the school too so, hopefully someone else won't have to go through this and even more hopefully, someone who doesn't want the shot can get educated.
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01-05-2013, 09:27 AM
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Re: Mandatory Flu Vaccine
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Originally Posted by ILG
My school has reimbursed me. Yay! I am happy for that but am still not impressed by the situation and what I had to go through. They are supposed to have some discussions about this at the school too so, hopefully someone else won't have to go through this and even more hopefully, someone who doesn't want the shot can get educated.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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