Dropped By & Somewhat Dismayed But Not Surprised

[not4saken]

Originally Posted by Ron

Ever read Acts chapter 5?
God is patient but as one of my Pastors have said, "you can play games with God all you want, but he is only going to play games with you for so long."

...then He is going to KILL you???

[Praxeas]

Does this mean we can no longer talk about King David's private indiscretion with Bathsheba....

[tv1a]

1. The Bible doent go into every little detail of the sexual encounter.
2. The effected parties have been dead for thousands of years.
3. God put the story in the Bible as an example so we don't need to talk about recent situations.

Need I provide more to debunk your hypothesis?

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Does this mean we can no longer talk about King David's private indiscretion with Bathsheba....

[H Gang]

Originally Posted by Ron

Thanks for the kind comments. Maybe I am getting old, maybe I feel the coming of the Lord is comiing head on at us like a freight train, but I really do not care so much of what people think of me.
I care what he thinks.
I tell you what, I know the voice of God & in weeping & prayer I aked how people could be so callous & disrespectful of the Ministry in this day & age & he was upset as well.
He said in that still small voice, "I will take care of it."
Some people better be carefull
In our own district over 20 years ago, we had a young newlywed ragging & sloggin' on a man of God. To this day, I do not know if there was any merit to what she had to say, but the man of God never fought back, her & her husband were driving to Church with their infant daughter in a car seat in the back seat.
A guy was running from the cops t-boned her side of the car & drove her body into the trunk on top of her baby.
They buried them both in the same casket.
Today her husband is lost on drugs & a mess.

I know a 21 year old young lady who was as sweet as could be. She was T-boned in her car and died. Accidents happen to the just and the unjust.

[H Gang]

Originally Posted by tv1a

1. The Bible doent go into every little detail of the sexual encounter.
2. The effected parties have been dead for thousands of years.
3. God put the story in the Bible as an example so we don't need to talk about recent situations.

Need I provide more to debunk your hypothesis?

1. I've not read anyone here going into "every little detail" of the sexual encounter.
2. At the time it was written, most likely the effected parties were still alive.
3. This story serves to all of us as an example---pride comes before a fall.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Ron

Uhh, if there is a Church problem it is dealt with by the local assembly.
There is a thing called gossip in the Bible & I am sure you probably do not even know what it means.

Is it gossip if it's true?

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by not4saken

Bro. Phelps!! PTL!! Its good to see your post on here- you were one of the great positive influences in my life on FCF, and beyond the forum...hope you are doing well, and the family? God bless you!! (WhollyHis) Lynne.

Hi Lynne! Things are well, how are you?

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Ron

Hi Michael,

Sorry I missed your post, I wan't ignoring you I just overlooked the post.
Yes, I understand you were indeed a Pastor a UPC one at that & I have seen some of your material which is pretty good.
That being said, i have never once said that he isn't guilty of--something.
It may be, I am not privy to the info & I am sure that if this was dealt with inhouse as a Church it should remain there.
Anything else is gossip, pure & simple.
The forum isn't the place to deal with these issues & isn't fair really to the Minister his family & the other parties as they are not here to present their sides.
If this can't be seen as such & I have pasted scripture for it.
One thing to consider Michael, in dealing with the Pharisees it was Jesus who deaklt with them--not the other disciples.
THere are some things that God holds as his perogative.

You make good points, Ron, but let me run the chain out a bit further......Paul says to "mark" those who cause divisions and walk contrary to the doctrine.

The word "Mark" in the Greek is "skopeo" which means to "Observe and contemplate or to brand, to take heed"........

Paul was against gossip, but he was highly in favor of observing ungodly behaviour among those who claimed to be Christians so they could be avoided.

Now, I'm not in favor of arbitrary gossip, but to think that it's not the right of outsiders to observe and discuss the ungodly behavior of a person who claims to be a Christian is unbiblical.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Ron

Thanks for the kind comments. Maybe I am getting old, maybe I feel the coming of the Lord is comiing head on at us like a freight train, but I really do not care so much of what people think of me.
I care what he thinks.
I tell you what, I know the voice of God & in weeping & prayer I aked how people could be so callous & disrespectful of the Ministry in this day & age & he was upset as well.
He said in that still small voice, "I will take care of it."
Some people better be carefull
In our own district over 20 years ago, we had a young newlywed ragging & sloggin' on a man of God. To this day, I do not know if there was any merit to what she had to say, but the man of God never fought back, her & her husband were driving to Church with their infant daughter in a car seat in the back seat.
A guy was running from the cops t-boned her side of the car & drove her body into the trunk on top of her baby.
They buried them both in the same casket.
Today her husband is lost on drugs & a mess.

No offense, Ron, but this kind of propaganda is outdated and unmerited. If you use the "God's going to punish you with death" argument, then what about all the wonderful Christians who have NEVER spoken against another person who die early? And, what about the heathens who rail against God on a daily basis yet live to be 90.

Scare tactics. I grew up with them. They are unmerited.

It rains on the just and the unjust......and Asaph said he nearly slipped when he saw the prosperity of the wicked.......

[not4saken]

Originally Posted by H Gang

I know a 21 year old young lady who was as sweet as could be. She was T-boned in her car and died. Accidents happen to the just and the unjust.

Time and chance happeneth to ALL man...BIBLE. Explain all the terrible accidents that killed precious saints. Wrong place, wrong time. Period.