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Old 01-30-2013, 08:35 AM
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One of the largest Churches in our City is run by Archdiocese of Vancouver. They have multiple full services every Sunday & sometimes Friday & Saturday Mass! There doctrine however makes the people two fold child of hell!
Numbers doesn't mean a Church is doing the will of God!
Well, How very great to know that God has placed it in your hands to judge someone else s relationship with Him!

Perfect example of WHY the Apostolic church need repair!!!!!
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:50 AM
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Well, How very great to know that God has placed it in your hands to judge someone else s relationship with Him!

Perfect example of WHY the Apostolic church need repair!!!!!
You support the Catholic Church? That's an eye opener in and of itself!
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:02 AM
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I think there is room for a lot of different type churches. The Experience Community Church is a church that some people would not feel comfortable in but many others do.

I hope that every single person who would not feel comfortable at TECC finds a church that they are and plugs in.

I think it is easy for folks to get hung up on their particular style of service or worship and think that is the only way to do things.

Experience Church appeals to a lot of younger people and people who would not step foot in a traditional church but I don't think that means more traditional churches don't have their place.
Nicely put.
If they are not against us then they are for us. It seems to me that some things are less liberating than they are generational (tats, for example).

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I was just saying that numbers doesn't always equal success or that one is preaching the right doctrine!
Nice try Deacon!
I could also point out to you that if a church is in a populated area and fails to grow or even shrinks then it is not bearing fruit. You don't hear that preached much in a lot of old time Pentecostal churches because it indicts many of them!

I don't recall anybody on this thread saying that the size of a church equaled success or meant one was preaching right doctrine. Heading down that path is a cop out a lot of Pentecostals use to make them feel better about the results of their efforts. If you have "right doctrine" and "success" the result should be church growth.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:08 PM
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I could also point out to you that if a church is in a populated area and fails to grow or even shrinks then it is not bearing fruit. You don't hear that preached much in a lot of old time Pentecostal churches because it indicts many of them!

I don't recall anybody on this thread saying that the size of a church equaled success or meant one was preaching right doctrine. Heading down that path is a cop out a lot of Pentecostals use to make them feel better about the results of their efforts. If you have "right doctrine" and "success" the result should be church growth.
Conversely, if one is having Church without sound doctrine, the Devil don't mind & will leave you alone.
A lot of "Churches" today are nothing more than "social community centres" catering to nothing but the "flesh!"

Did I say that is your Church?
I am sorry but I don't see where I said that, I did however make a statement that size it not indicative necessarely of doing God's work!
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:12 PM
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Re: Non Traditional Church Pastord By Ex UPCer

Bahahaha. The devil leaves OP's alone. Y'all kill your own kind.
Selah.
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Bahahaha. The devil leaves OP's alone. Y'all kill your own kind.
Selah.
PO had you pegged!
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:16 PM
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PO had you pegged!
Po?? The tellytubby?
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Po?? The tellytubby?
You watch that dribble?
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Re: Non Traditional Church Pastord By Ex UPCer

So what did that old lady have to say?
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