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02-05-2013, 01:12 PM
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Re: Needy Saints?
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
You can also bring in the aspect of jealous competition. That's another can of worms. 
I had a pastor tell me that they didn't want more members as it was easier to take care of a smaller flock. I'm like, Wow, you better tell God that He's done here. |
I've heard basically the same thing.
One person (pastor) is only equipped to deal with a certain number of congregants, much like one teacher is only equipped to deal with a certain number of students.
The problem enters when the pastor is too insecure to delegate to other ministers in the church, and so he would rather keep the congregation small enough to handle on his own........
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02-05-2013, 01:13 PM
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Re: Needy Saints?
Hello? Saints people, saints. The subject is SAINTS not PASTORS. Is this thing on? 
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-05-2013, 01:19 PM
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Re: Needy Saints?
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Hello? Saints people, saints. The subject is SAINTS not PASTORS. Is this thing on? |
We're just bitter. Let us vent. LOL!
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02-05-2013, 01:20 PM
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Re: Needy Saints?
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We're just bitter. Let us vent. LOL!
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I've been both, now I'm neither! 
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"Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
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02-05-2013, 01:21 PM
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Re: Needy Saints?
So my question for others here is how do you act around such needy saints who A) need permission for everything they do from the "man of gawd!" and B) are continuously looking for approval from this same man by digging as much dirt up on others as possible?
Do you try to be careful? Or, like me, say the heck with it and have some fun with em?
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02-05-2013, 01:24 PM
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Re: Needy Saints?
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
I've heard basically the same thing.
One person (pastor) is only equipped to deal with a certain number of congregants, much like one teacher is only equipped to deal with a certain number of students.
The problem enters when the pastor is too insecure to delegate to other ministers in the church, and so he would rather keep the congregation small enough to handle on his own........
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You know, Michael, I haven't really met very many people throughout my lifetime that are extremely efficient and organized.
I think that some in ministry don't realize their limitations. For instance, I know someone right now that is the most inefficient and the most unorganized person I have ever known. Yet, they can sing wonderful and pray with people.
So, my suggestion would be, find someone that you trust to help you in the areas you are lacking - let's unify this work together and build something great.
Alas, the control issue seems to always block real reform and growth. We aren't really very humble people, I don't think. I think God feels very sorry for us.
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02-05-2013, 01:26 PM
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Re: Needy Saints?
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
You know, Michael, I haven't really met very many people throughout my lifetime that are extremely efficient and organized.
I think that some in ministry don't realize their limitations. For instance, I know someone right now that is the most inefficient and the most unorganized person I have ever known. Yet, they can sing wonderful and pray with people.
So, my suggestion would be, find someone that you trust to help you in the areas you are lacking - let's unify this work together and build something great.
Alas, the control issue seems to always block real reform and growth. We aren't really very humble people, I don't think. I think God feels very sorry for us. |
 
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-05-2013, 01:26 PM
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Re: Needy Saints?
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I've been both, now I'm neither! |
Yea, I always find you on the standards threads. If I needed money and was looking for you....
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02-05-2013, 01:26 PM
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Re: Needy Saints?
And don't tell anybody I said that, PO.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-05-2013, 01:33 PM
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Re: Needy Saints?
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Yea, I always find you on the standards threads. If I needed money and was looking for you.... |
Trust me, there are plenty of people lined up to take my money! GOod thing potstirring is free!
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