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[Ron]

Originally Posted by houston

Dancing is wild abandon?

Is it Choreographed art?
We had a lady, very charasmatic, came to us & said that she would be happy to do a seminar at dancing before the Lord.
Not going to happen dear.
Let people respond as they are worshipping the Lord!

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by Ron

I have never been to a snake handling Church myself, but I know if someone opened up a box of Rattlers & Water Moccasins in a Church I was in, there would be a lot of dancing & shouting but it may not be construed as worship!

Wendy Bagwell, (gospel singer from the past) found himself at a snake handling church. When they brought out one of the big rattlers he asked Geraldine, one of his fellow singers, "Where is the back door?" She answered, "There is no back door!" Wendy asked, "Where do you think they would want a back door?"

Been Thinkin

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ron

What is proper worship or praise.
The Bible says in bringing back the Ark of the Lord to Israel in
14 And David danced before the Lord with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.

15 So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the Lord with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet.

16 And as the ark of the Lord came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the Lord; and she despised him in her heart.

17 And they brought in the ark of the Lord, and set it in his place, in the midst of the tabernacle that David had pitched for it: and David offered burnt offerings and peace offerings before the Lord.

18 And as soon as David had made an end of offering burnt offerings and peace offerings, he blessed the people in the name of the Lord of hosts.

19 And he dealt among all the people, even among the whole multitude of Israel, as well to the women as men, to every one a cake of bread, and a good piece of flesh, and a flagon of wine. So all the people departed every one to his house.

20 Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!

21 And David said unto Michal, It was before the Lord, which chose me before thy father, and before all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the Lord, over Israel: therefore will I play before the Lord.

22 And I will yet be more vile than thus, and will be base in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour.

23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

Seems to me that King David got a little rowdy in worship before the Lord, so much so, that he seemed to have hummbled himself in the sight of all Israel!
God did not chide him, and seems to infer that God struck Michal with a barren womb until the day she died as he God was displeased with her attitude towards David's worship!
Boy, that would preach.

So, those of you commenting that this is not Biblical worship, what is Biblical woirship according to you?

I love David's response to her:

22 [B]And I will yet be more vile (light, swift, sharp) than thus, and will be base (humble) in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

Wendy Bagwell, (gospel singer from the past) found himself at a snake handling church. When they brought out one of the big rattlers he asked Geraldine, one of his fellow singers, "Where is the back door?" She answered, "There is no back door!" Wendy asked, "Where do you think they would want a back door?"

Been Thinkin

I ain't afraid of snakes--just the ones that can kill you!
I saw a documentary on You Tube, it was about the Rattlesnake roundup at Sweetwater.
One of the handlers says, I have nightmares---doh!

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I love David's response to her:

22 [B]And I will yet be more vile (light, swift, sharp) than thus, and will be base (humble) in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour.

[LifeUncommon]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

How many of these have you seen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_7ulqljPo4

Me no likey! I always feel like laughing at this stuff is making fun.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by houston

Dancing is wild abandon?

Originally Posted by Ron

Is it Choreographed art?
We had a lady, very charasmatic, came to us & said that she would be happy to do a seminar at dancing before the Lord.
Not going to happen dear.
Let people respond as they are worshipping the Lord!

I think it can be either one--and I think that as long as it's meant as worship to God, He's going to like it. If people dance with wild abandon, as long as its in order within the service, I think He will be pleased with it. If people dance a choreographed, pre-planned dance before God in worship--I don't see how that's any different than singing a practiced, pre-planned song in worship.

I love this *Rain Dance*--it's so JOYFUL and FUN!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Qto...=results_video

Some of my cousins (4 sisters and a brother) have been in ballet since they were small children and they are all part of a dance troupe that performs to hymns and worship music. It isn't loose interpretative dance--it's formal choreographed ballet to sacred music and the girls wear these long pretty, flowy dresses. I think it's gorgeous. (Btw, they aren't Apostolic.)

I'm fine with the "wild abandonment." However, I've never quite understood the objection to choreographed/planned movements. I don't think there's ANY scripture against it.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I think it can be either one--and I think that as long as it's meant as worship to God, He's going to like it. If people dance with wild abandon, as long as its in order within the service, I think He will be pleased with it. If people dance a choreographed, pre-planned dance before God in worship--I don't see how that's any different than singing a practiced, pre-planned song in worship.

I love this *Rain Dance*--it's so JOYFUL and FUN!:

Some of my cousins (4 sisters and a brother) have been in ballet since they were small children and they are all part of a dance troupe that performs to hymns and worship music. It isn't loose interpretative dance--it's formal choreographed ballet to sacred music and the girls wear these long pretty, flowy dresses. I think it's gorgeous. (Btw, they aren't Apostolic.)

I'm fine with the "wild abandonment." However, I've never quite understood the objection to choreographed/planned movements. I don't think there's ANY scripture against it.

There isn't any scripture against it but it was always one of the "holiness standards" that kept me out of Square Dancing during gym class.



Go figure that I started competitive ballroom a few years after that. LOL
(And could never figure out how a beautiful waltz, foxtrot, or rumba was 'wrong' but dancing like a Jamaican voodoo practitioner wasn't.)

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

It does have something to do with the power of God. If someone didn't feel His presence in such a powerful way, they wouldn't express themselves with such emotion.

I'm not going to interfere with someone's emotional expression unless they are disrupting a service and making it all about themselves. And I certainly wouldn't want to start a thread to begin a mocking campaign. Just sayin'...

Seriously? My kids have been copying people's dances since they were knee-high to a grasshopper. I thought every kid that grew up in church did that. Copying how people dance isn't the same thing as feeling disgust toward them for dancing like Michel did toward David. She wasn't out there with him; she was looking down on him in disdain from her window and putting him down for worshiping God. I didn't get that from the linked videos at all.

Your kids have never *learned* and demonstrated the dances of people at church?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Seriously? My kids have been copying people's dances since they were knee-high to a grasshopper. I thought every kid that grew up in church did that. Copying how people dance isn't the same thing as feeling disgust toward them for dancing like Michel did toward David. She wasn't out there with him; she was looking down on him in disdain from her window and putting him down for worshiping God. I didn't get that from the linked videos at all.

Your kids have never *learned* and demonstrated the dances of people at church?

I think you misunderstood my statement. I don't feel the thread was started in order to "compliment" the dancers/worshippers.

My husband has always said he would rather people make some mistakes in their responses than to quench the Spirit.

And no, my children didn't do any of that. At least I don't recall ever seeing it.