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02-07-2013, 08:38 AM
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Re: GOP Candidates 2016
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Rand Paul... on the issues:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Rand_Paul.htm
I might be able to support him. Sadly, good Republicans become lap dogs. My personal political beliefs fall far more into the Libertarian Party. Rand Paul is still rather "Republican" in his political philosophy.
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Yep... He's no mainstream republican... much... but he's no Ron Paul either.
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02-07-2013, 08:43 AM
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Re: GOP Candidates 2016
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Yep... He's no mainstream republican... much... but he's no Ron Paul either.
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Well, Ron won't run again and Rand isn't as kooky sounding or acting. There was a lot that Ron said I liked, even my yellow dog Democrat dad liked about him, but the foreign policy ideas were way off track and dangerous. Would've never been elected because of it. But he's pretty dead on with fiscal and monetary policy. I could vote for Rand.
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02-07-2013, 09:28 AM
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Re: GOP Candidates 2016
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Well, Ron won't run again and Rand isn't as kooky sounding or acting. There was a lot that Ron said I liked, even my yellow dog Democrat dad liked about him, but the foreign policy ideas were way off track and dangerous. Would've never been elected because of it. But he's pretty dead on with fiscal and monetary policy. I could vote for Rand.
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I agree with Matthew Kibee of Freedom Works - “We have to defeat the Republicans before we can defeat the Democrats.”
I see the demonization of the right using the same marketing strategy as the anti-smoker campaign and the anti-gun campaign. The moderate Republicans want to destroy conservatives, constitutionalists and Christians as bad as the liberals do.
It is the Constitution. You can't move to a world government until the Constitution is removed and to do that you have to destroy the political power of the "right wingers". This is the last political war and the average voter just doesn't get it.
The biggest mistake the Tea Party and Ron Paul movement made was try and be accepted by the GOP. They did not understand how much they are hated by the moderates who are nothing more than progressives in sheep’s clothing.
Rove, Romney, moderate Republicans, and the rest of them are infiltrators sent in to destroy and remake the party.
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02-07-2013, 09:32 AM
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Re: GOP Candidates 2016
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Well, Ron won't run again and Rand isn't as kooky sounding or acting. There was a lot that Ron said I liked, even my yellow dog Democrat dad liked about him, but the foreign policy ideas were way off track and dangerous. Would've never been elected because of it. But he's pretty dead on with fiscal and monetary policy. I could vote for Rand.
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I believe Ron said the other day that he would consider running again.
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02-07-2013, 09:35 AM
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Re: GOP Candidates 2016
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I believe Ron said the other day that he would consider running again.
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He knows the Establishment cheated him out what he worked hard for. And I am glad to see people, online and in the new media, still discussing the dishonesty of the Primaries and Convention. We have let Priebus knows how we feel about what he has done - shutting out a group he actually really needs. He doesn't care. They have a whole different agenda.
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02-07-2013, 09:49 AM
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Re: GOP Candidates 2016
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He knows the Establishment cheated him out what he worked hard for. And I am glad to see people, online and in the new media, still discussing the dishonesty of the Primaries and Convention. We have let Priebus knows how we feel about what he has done - shutting out a group he actually really needs. He doesn't care. They have a whole different agenda.
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I recognize that, in all likelihood, Ron Paul will never be the president of the United States. But what Ron is doing is educating a nation. He will be known as the father of our return to the founding fathers ideals.
What he is doing is very necessary and I think he knows that he is fighting for what will likely be someone else's victory but that's what great patriots do. Another great part of what he is doing is that he is not only educating a nation but those who hear him best are the youth of this nation. We may have to wander around in this wilderness until all of the old fogies finally die out like Israel did in the wilderness but there is a hope in the future.
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02-07-2013, 10:08 AM
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Re: GOP Candidates 2016
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I recognize that, in all likelihood, Ron Paul will never be the president of the United States. But what Ron is doing is educating a nation. He will be known as the father of our return to the founding fathers ideals.
What he is doing is very necessary and I think he knows that he is fighting for what will likely be someone else's victory but that's what great patriots do. Another great part of what he is doing is that he is not only educating a nation but those who hear him best are the youth of this nation. We may have to wander around in this wilderness until all of the old fogies finally die out like Israel did in the wilderness but there is a hope in the future.
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Yes, sir, I totally agree with that and I do receive his e-mails. I always enjoy them. He is like a father watching over us and I do love that about him.
As you know, I wasn't for him as president, but I became more endeared to him as I watched the dishonesty the Republicans threw at him, circumventing his every honest move during the primaries. We cheered as he walked onto the Convention floor with the leis around his neck and booed with them when they ignored the cries of, "LET HIM SPEAK!" We rallied behind him on-line, keeping the information going as to what they were doing to him.
That is a huge reason why Romney lost and he deserved the loss.
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02-07-2013, 11:00 AM
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Re: GOP Candidates 2016
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Yes, sir, I totally agree with that and I do receive his e-mails. I always enjoy them. He is like a father watching over us and I do love that about him.
As you know, I wasn't for him as president, but I became more endeared to him as I watched the dishonesty the Republicans threw at him, circumventing his every honest move during the primaries. We cheered as he walked onto the Convention floor with the leis around his neck and booed with them when they ignored the cries of, "LET HIM SPEAK!" We rallied behind him on-line, keeping the information going as to what they were doing to him.
That is a huge reason why Romney lost and he deserved the loss.
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All of that will stop in direct correlation with the level of re-education of the people. Those things are only tolerated because so many people still giggle in the corner every time they hear one of the "company lines". But as the understanding of the people increases these things will bring on moans and crashes in poll numbers.
For now there are still too many who don't know much beyond what they have been told to think and they whoop and YEAH!!! at every little utterance of their favored master.
But... the days are coming in which all of these things change. I'd say that we are somewhere around monkey #74 on our way to the 100th monkey. In time... patience and perseverance are the keys.
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02-07-2013, 11:03 AM
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Re: GOP Candidates 2016
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All of that will stop in direct correlation with the level of re-education of the people. Those things are only tolerated because so many people still giggle in the corner every time they hear one of the "company lines". But as the understanding of the people increases these things will bring on moans and crashes in poll numbers.
For now there are still too many who don't know much beyond what they have been told to think and they whoop and YEAH!!! at every little utterance of their favored master.
But... the days are coming in which all of these things change. I'd say that we are somewhere around monkey #74 on our way to the 100th monkey. In time... patience and perseverance are the keys.
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Exactly! I do see some waking up. I certainly woke up during this last election. Now I am wide awake! lol
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02-08-2013, 06:12 AM
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Re: GOP Candidates 2016
Marco Rubio appears to be positioning himself. He's giving the GOP response after the State of the Union next Tuesday.
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