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Old 02-19-2013, 05:39 PM
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I could never condone a gay pastor period. It is an abomination, & there are unclean, nasty spirits associated with that.
As for the snake handlers, while I would not go myself, I have a hard time condeming them outright.
Apples & Oranges IMHO.
What does the topic have to do with condoning it?
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So they had no problem having services in a trinitarian church. But now it's a problem because the new pastor is gay? It just seems inconsistent.
exactly
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There are unclean spirits associated with a person being gay. They can be delivered if they confess & forsake that sin.
No double standard.
what does that have to do with holding services there on days when she is not there?
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For me it's not inconsistent at all.

I view one as an honest, if somewhat misguided perspective of the Godhead. And the other as as an abomination.
What does that have to do with having services in that building?
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I wouldn't help fund their church with the rent. It is against the Word of God and is a double standard, IMO, to be a part of what their congregation stands for. We have to take a stand, with love and wisdom, regardless of whose feelings it may hurt.

The church is starting to become politically correct, not a good thing.

The problem is when you preach about Adam and Steve, acting like an unloving smart aleck and not stick with scriptures, like Romans 1.
So congregations should never ever rent from someone because they could be supporting or funding someone's bad lifestyle....

Same goes for buying property
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So congregations should never ever rent from someone because they could be supporting or funding someone's bad lifestyle....

Same goes for buying property
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So congregations should never ever rent from someone because they could be supporting or funding someone's bad lifestyle....

Same goes for buying property
Buying property and renting it is not the same thing. Buying property takes it from someone's hands and puts it in your own hands. You can then change the face of the property.
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Buying property and renting it is not the same thing. Buying property takes it from someone's hands and puts it in your own hands. You can then change the face of the property.
They are both the same in the respect that you are giving money someone else, thereby funding someone elses lifestyle.

Buying property is not taking. It's an exchange. Money for property

Renting is the same thing without a change of ownership
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They are both the same in the respect that you are giving money someone else, thereby funding someone elses lifestyle.

Buying property is not taking. It's an exchange. Money for property

Renting is the same thing without a change of ownership
Would that be like BUYING Al Capone's home - a stigma?

If I am not going to OWN it, then I don't want to be involved.
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What does that have to do with having services in that building?
Response to Houston's question. I understand if someone thought gay pastors were in a far worse catagory than Trinitarianism.

I am not so sure I would have a problem renting facilities from anyone - nightclubs included, unless there is a concern that the church condones what happens there when they are not assembled.
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