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02-24-2013, 08:13 AM
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Re: Where Are The Real Apostolics?
No one believes that drinking wine is a sin until they are indoctrinated.
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02-24-2013, 08:24 AM
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Re: Where Are The Real Apostolics?
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No one believes that drinking wine is a sin until they are indoctrinated.
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It could certainly be advisable for some to refrain from wine/Alcohol. Maybe a "weight", if not a sin?
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02-24-2013, 08:37 AM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: Where Are The Real Apostolics?
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It could certainly be advisable for some to refrain from wine/Alcohol. Maybe a "weight", if not a sin?
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Being drunk is the sin.
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02-24-2013, 10:14 AM
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Re: Where Are The Real Apostolics?
How many of you real Apostolics go visit the shut ins and sick every week?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-24-2013, 10:30 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Where Are The Real Apostolics?
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Originally Posted by MarieA27
It's a command, and we do it in our church, but you also have to use wisdom and judgement. If some new comer just came into the church, and didn't know that that is how we greet each other, you don't just go up to them and kiss them, you might end up running them away. The same as the brothers aren't to just kiss the sisters and vice versa. Also not everyone may be exactly comfortable with it. If they are comfortable with it, you may greet them with a holy kiss, if not, you don't force them.
Another scripture comes to mind, about not letting things that you have liberty to do, become a stumbling block to a saint... 1Cor 8:9 |
What church do you go to?
So if someone is not comfortable with a certain verse they can disobey it?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-24-2013, 10:39 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Where Are The Real Apostolics?
The fact is many conservatives don't do the kissing thing all the while talking about how others compromise His word and not obey it. They have their excuses and reasons for why they don't have to kiss each other or drink wine instead of water.
The fact is, when you learn to study the bible you learn a principle called Hermeneutics. In Hermeneutics you must consider several factors like context, who wrote it and to whom, when, where, the grammar and types of speech.
When you realize that kissing was a customary way to greet someone
Mat 26:48 And he who betrayed Him gave them a sign, saying, Whomever I shall kiss, He is the one, lay hold on Him.
Mat 26:49 And coming up to Jesus immediately, he said, Hail, Master! And he kissed Him.
Luk 7:44 And He turned to the woman and said to Simon, Do you see this woman? I entered into your house, yet you gave Me no water for My feet. But she has washed My feet with tears, and has wiped them with the hair of her head.
Luk 7:45 You gave Me no kiss, but this woman, since the time I came in, has not ceased to kiss My feet.
Luk 7:46 You did not anoint My head with oil, but this woman has anointed My feet with ointment.
Footwashing was also a middle eastern custom as they walked around in sandals and their feet were dusty.
In America we generally shake hands and when more intimate we hug but not kiss. That is our culture...kissing was theirs.
People misunderstand the word and come up with all sort of doctrines...like snake handling.
I believe a lack of hermeneutics and the KJV lead to a lot of these problems
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-24-2013, 10:51 AM
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Re: Where Are The Real Apostolics?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
The fact is many conservatives don't do the kissing thing all the while talking about how others compromise His word and not obey it. They have their excuses and reasons for why they don't have to kiss each other or drink wine instead of water.
The fact is, when you learn to study the bible you learn a principle called Hermeneutics. In Hermeneutics you must consider several factors like context, who wrote it and to whom, when, where, the grammar and types of speech.
When you realize that kissing was a customary way to greet someone
Mat 26:48 And he who betrayed Him gave them a sign, saying, Whomever I shall kiss, He is the one, lay hold on Him.
Mat 26:49 And coming up to Jesus immediately, he said, Hail, Master! And he kissed Him.
Luk 7:44 And He turned to the woman and said to Simon, Do you see this woman? I entered into your house, yet you gave Me no water for My feet. But she has washed My feet with tears, and has wiped them with the hair of her head.
Luk 7:45 You gave Me no kiss, but this woman, since the time I came in, has not ceased to kiss My feet.
Luk 7:46 You did not anoint My head with oil, but this woman has anointed My feet with ointment.
Footwashing was also a middle eastern custom as they walked around in sandals and their feet were dusty.
In America we generally shake hands and when more intimate we hug but not kiss. That is our culture...kissing was theirs.
People misunderstand the word and come up with all sort of doctrines...like snake handling.
I believe a lack of hermeneutics and the KJV lead to a lot of these problems |
__________________
"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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02-24-2013, 11:00 AM
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Resident PeaceMaker
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Re: Where Are The Real Apostolics?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
The fact is many conservatives don't do the kissing thing all the while talking about how others compromise His word and not obey it. They have their excuses and reasons for why they don't have to kiss each other or drink wine instead of water.
The fact is, when you learn to study the bible you learn a principle called Hermeneutics. In Hermeneutics you must consider several factors like context, who wrote it and to whom, when, where, the grammar and types of speech.
When you realize that kissing was a customary way to greet someone
Mat 26:48 And he who betrayed Him gave them a sign, saying, Whomever I shall kiss, He is the one, lay hold on Him.
Mat 26:49 And coming up to Jesus immediately, he said, Hail, Master! And he kissed Him.
Luk 7:44 And He turned to the woman and said to Simon, Do you see this woman? I entered into your house, yet you gave Me no water for My feet. But she has washed My feet with tears, and has wiped them with the hair of her head.
Luk 7:45 You gave Me no kiss, but this woman, since the time I came in, has not ceased to kiss My feet.
Luk 7:46 You did not anoint My head with oil, but this woman has anointed My feet with ointment.
Footwashing was also a middle eastern custom as they walked around in sandals and their feet were dusty.
In America we generally shake hands and when more intimate we hug but not kiss. That is our culture...kissing was theirs.
People misunderstand the word and come up with all sort of doctrines...like snake handling.
I believe a lack of hermeneutics and the KJV lead to a lot of these problems |
You are teaching now Brother. 
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There they can find plenty of fault.
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02-24-2013, 11:04 AM
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Forever Loved Admin
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Re: Where Are The Real Apostolics?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Yup
Rom 16:16 Greet one another with a holy kiss. The churches of Christ greet you.
1Co 16:20 All the brothers greet you. Greet one another with a holy kiss.
2Co 13:12 Greet one another with a holy kiss.
1Th 5:26 Greet all the brothers with a holy kiss.
1Pe 5:14 Greet one another with a kiss of holy love. Peace be to you, all those in Christ Jesus. Amen
5....that's more scriptures than there are for no Jewelry....  |
 
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-24-2013, 11:14 AM
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Re: Where Are The Real Apostolics?
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He really needed that.
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