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Old 02-24-2013, 11:26 AM
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Re: Uncut Hair!Houston chronicle interview w/KenGu

Why in Paul's time was 1 COR. 11 written what did it mean to the original audience ?
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:28 AM
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Compare this with King Jimmy.
http://www.biblestudytools.com/bbe/1...thians/11.html
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I think sometimes you are too hard on those who were once UPC. Not all former UPCers are bitter or backslid. My long hair will not be my free pass into heaven. My salvation is only through faith in the work that Jesus did on the cross! Yes, I believe in Repentance, Jesus Name baptism and the infilling of the Holy Ghost.
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The same year Obama was first elected. Coincidence?
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"We don't see this as the single greatest proof that a woman has a walk with God," Gurley said. "We just feel like it is being faithful to our holiness heritage, and in a world where so much has changed, and not necessarily for the better, it shows our reverence to God." - Ken Gurley
This is, from my experience, how many of us view the standards. He worded it very well. And I don't have a problem with anyone who feels this is the best way they can live for God.

What I do have a problem with is putting others in hell who don't feel that this is how they can live.

I also have a problem with preaching it is NOT a heaven or hell issue, but viewing those who don't follow along, in the church, as backslidden. That has been my experience in every church I am acquainted with. That is confusing. IMO, you can't have it both ways.

I do know how Bro. Epley feels about that. He is consistent in what he believes and he is an honest man. I have no problem with that and I can respect him for it.

I do believe that Acts 2:38 is the message. When you study baptism, you find out that Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. So, I believe strongly in that. All the Epistles, in my estimation, point back to these truths. That is much, much more important to me - "how can I be saved", than how long my hair is supposed to be? For me, it is a gender distinction. I don't think men should have long hair, like a woman, nor do I believe women should have short hair like a man.

When you say it may be necessary to reach outside of the Greek to interpret "long" as "uncut", I have a problem with that as well. I don't know why Paul would reach "outside" of the Greek when he is speaking to a Greek audience.
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This is, from my experience, how many of us view the standards. He worded it very well. And I don't have a problem with anyone who feels this is the best way they can live for God.

What I do have a problem with is putting others in hell who don't feel that this is how they can live.

I also have a problem with preaching it is NOT a heaven or hell issue, but viewing those who don't follow along, in the church, as backslidden. That has been my experience in every church I am acquainted with. That is confusing. IMO, you can't have it both ways.

I do know how Bro. Epley feels about that. He is consistent in what he believes and he is an honest man. I have no problem with that and I can respect him for it.

I do believe that Acts 2:38 is the message. When you study baptism, you find out that Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. So, I believe strongly in that. All the Epistles, in my estimation, point back to these truths. That is much, much more important to me - "how can I be saved", than how long my hair is supposed to be? For me, it is a gender distinction. I don't think men should have long hair, like a woman, nor do I believe women should have short hair like a man.

When you say it may be necessary to reach outside of the Greek to interpret "long" as "uncut", I have a problem with that as well. I don't know why Paul would reach "outside" of the Greek when he is speaking to a Greek audience.


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Thanks, I was actually writing that and tattling to God about it.
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