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Originally Posted by DaveC519
Yes, and I'm an example. I'm what they call "bi-vocational": I serve in pastoral ministry in a small church, and I also own a business which supports my family and I. I do not receive a salary at this time from the church, so I serve there because I believe God called me there.
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That is great. You are a minority. There are a few in my region, but these are not in the upci.
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Originally Posted by DaveC519
I agree that the subject of tithes is not a salvation issue. However, I do consider it to be a commandment issue, and, as with all of the Lord's commandments, there are attached to them blessings for obedience and cursings for disobedience.
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Paul never
commanded tithes despite what you say. Paul certainly never cursed another for not paying tithes.
Paul taught certain things including.....What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.
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I Corinthians 9:18)
In fact, lets just use the same verses you all use when you try to prove a NT tithe.
11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?
12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather?
Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
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Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.
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But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void.
16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!
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For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
18 What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.
Cheerful NT giving does not specify who to give it to. Ya'll just assume that it must go to the pastor.
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