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Originally Posted by Praxeas
True but as I said earlier the tithe isn't merely an OT law. We are not under the law so why do we need to go point by point by the law? It's a principle and the tithe predates the law when Abraham tithed the booty he got from war.
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Praxeas,
How isn’t tithing solely under the Old Testament? You mentioned tithing principles. Which principle was God establishing with the following event?
Genesis 28:22-22 reads:
20) Then Jacob made a vow, saying, “
if God will be with me
and will watch over me on this journey I am taking
and will give me food to eat and clothes to wear
21) so that I return safely to my father’s household,
then the LORD will be my God
22) and this stone that I have set up as a pillar will be God’s house,
and of all that you give me I will give you a tenth.”
We clearly read Jacob giving God terms and conditions, which God must adhere to before Jacob gave a tenth of “his” possessions. In short, Jacob states, God, only if you bless me first, then shall I give you a tenth! This in itself contradicts modern-day tithe teachings. Again, which principle was god establishing when he agreed to Jacob’s terms? As we read Jacob’s story, it’s evident that God accepted Jacob’s proposition.
In regard to Abraham’s tithe, that’s an awesome name, by the way, I never understood the logic of those utilizing that isolated event to reinforce modern-day tithing.
We read in
Hebrews 7:1 and
Hebrews 7:4,
1)For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all,
4) Consider how great this man was, to whom even the patriarch
Abraham gave a tenth of the spoils.
Before continuing I read an article, explaining is was customary in that era to give a tenth of war spoils to kings. Though it may have some similarity to tithing (i.e. percentage), it had no affiliation to tithing. We’ve read where tithing derived from personal possessions (i.e. cattle, crops ,etc.).
How did Abraham tithe from items that weren’t of “his” possession? That contradicts the principle of tithing. Furthermore, the bible reads in
Genesis 14 that Abraham kept none of the spoils for himself. So Abraham gave a tenth of war spoils, from stolen items, of which he kept none for himself? Sorry, that contradicts Old Testament tithing. Moreover, how does biblical personal possession tithing correlate to stolen property tithing (if such thing exist)?
Regards,
Jacob's Ladder