Now take that band to a school hall... but I roollly hope your band know some contemporary christian music. Otherwise get thee back to whence ye came ...
With all respect in the world for Elder Epley (he knows I certainly do respect him), You do realize that the good Elder is not only NOT UPCI, but pretty much of the belief that the UPCI is far too liberal right?
Are you really saying that because an AMF guy teaches things you dont like, you wont go to a church the AMF guy thinks is far too liberal?
Because that just flat confuses me.
bump...
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Maybe Jason can ease himself into a UPC frame of mind by starting out just watching UPC services online then work his way up to actually visiting the church or churches he is considering.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Maybe Jason can ease himself into a UPC frame of mind by starting out just watching UPC services online then work his way up to actually visiting the church or churches he is considering.
I know what happens in a UPC service, I have ZERO desire to watch a service.
And a little
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
With all respect in the world for Elder Epley (he knows I certainly do respect him), You do realize that the good Elder is not only NOT UPCI, but pretty much of the belief that the UPCI is far too liberal right?
Are you really saying that because an AMF guy teaches things you dont like, you wont go to a church the AMF guy thinks is far too liberal?
Because that just flat confuses me.
I do realize that Bro. Epley is not UPC, but his attitude/spirit is very typical of the conservative element of the UPC (spiritual elistist/judge everyone else who they consider more liberal). This reminds me how some of the preachers (who are the most judgmental) treat those they don't agree with. SE is ok here on AFF, he just thinks I'm a lost liberal charismatic, which I can deal with here on AFF, but I don't want to fellowship with people who can't accept me. I don't demand they see every issue as I do, but neither will I see every issue the way they do.
What is also bothersome to me is that SE absolutely cannot defend his views with solid scriptural exegesis BUT there are still posters left and right shouting amen. (Lacey, Randy, Ferd). It just dampens my enthusiasm and optimism and reminds me, I don't want to be in a church lke that, and I do know that alot of UPCs are like that.
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
I know what happens in a UPC service, I have ZERO desire to watch a service.
And a little
Impressive use of multiple emoticons!
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
I do realize that Bro. Epley is not UPC, but his attitude/spirit is very typical of the conservative element of the UPC (spiritual elistist/judge everyone else who they consider more liberal). This reminds me how some of the preachers (who are the most judgmental) treat those they don't agree with. SE is ok here on AFF, he just thinks I'm a lost liberal charismatic, which I can deal with here on AFF, but I don't want to fellowship with people who can't accept me. I don't demand they see every issue as I do, but neither will I see every issue the way they do.
What is also bothersome to me is that SE absolutely cannot defend his views with solid scriptural exegesis BUT there are still posters left and right shouting amen. (Lacey, Randy, Ferd). It just dampens my enthusiasm and optimism and reminds me, I don't want to be in a church lke that, and I do know that alot of UPCs are like that.
You're just making excuses...
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Ye who are weary
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Hilarious you would bring that up. One of the people in our political group is a die-hard Catholic and knows that I used to be Catholic. He said, "You know once a Catholic, always a Catholic. Catholics always come home." He's thinks that after I have received the Holy Ghost that I could come back to "the church" and do some good there.
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