The America I Knew Is Gone-Down Home

[deafdriscoll]

i also am not pleased as to the new changes in America.

[SiblingRevelry]

I dunno, I rather like some aspects of this America.

I like, for example, that as a woman, I'm not discriminated against in educational opportunities or job prospects simply because I'm female.

The good old days were good for some, not so much for others. But do we expect any time to be perfect? As long as there's sin in the world, I don't think we can!

[Michael The Disciple]

Yea that's what Im saying. If you don't get what I am saying you were not there. Yea maybe you can get equal pay as a woman. Was that ever Gods design? What about having children? Guiding the house? What about kids raised with both of their parents?

How about a difference between right and wrong? Common decency? You could go out and get a pretty good job in a factory no big problem.

Its certainly not the fault of the young people coming up now. They were put through at least 12 years of Socialist Propaganda. It was MY generation who got the "ball of confusion" rolling.

Since then the former America has been in free fall, morally and economically.

Now that I think about it in 40 yeas of being in the work force I really don't recall working ANYPLACE that payed me more for doing a job than a woman who did the same thing. Honestly.

[SiblingRevelry]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Yea that's what Im saying. If you don't get what I am saying you were not there. Yea maybe you can get equal pay as a woman. Was that ever Gods design? What about having children? Guiding the house? What about kids raised with both of their parents?

How about a difference between right and wrong? Common decency? You could go out and get a pretty good job in a factory no big problem.

Its certainly not the fault of the young people coming up now. They were put through at least 12 years of Socialist Propaganda. It was MY generation who got the "ball of confusion" rolling.

Since then the former America has been in free fall, morally and economically.

Now that I think about it in 40 yeas of being in the work force I really don't recall working ANYPLACE that payed me more for doing a job than a woman who did the same thing. Honestly.

There's a lot of assumptions here. As a woman, let me zero in on a few:

* Women are going to get married and have a perfect life as mother and homemaker.

Well, that's not how it turned out in my family. My parents have been married 53 years, but for 45+ of those years, my mother has been a full blown paranoid schizophrenic. It's a heck of a thing to grow up under. And yes, I grew up with both parents. My dad worked all the time to pay the hospital bills from my mom's hospitalizations.

* You assume every woman wants to have children.

I never did, and now that I'm past childbearing age, I'm glad I didn't. My children would have had to deal with a high-functioning autistic mother with chronic depression. Seeing what I went through with my own mother, I'm glad I had the foresight to take into consideration my own situation.

* You assume public school is a bad thing.

I'm a multiple veteran of the public schools of America: 13 years primary and secondary, plus four [closer to six] years college and three years law school, all of them in the public school system. I'm biased, but I got a pretty good education, I think. I'm a fully-employed, tax-paying citizen of the evil System, so something must have gone right.

*Finally, you look back on a time when your race (white, from your picture) and your sex (male) were on top. The 1950s were not a nice period if you were female, a member of a minority, or both. I strongly advise you to read about them. It was not all Leave it to Beaver. I'm certainly not wanting to go back to a time when it was permissible to pay women less and sexually harass and proposition them with no consequences.

[Bishop Cleatus]

Yep.

[Godzchild]

Originally Posted by SiblingRevelry

There's a lot of assumptions here. As a woman, let me zero in on a few:

* Women are going to get married and have a perfect life as mother and homemaker.

Well, that's not how it turned out in my family. My parents have been married 53 years, but for 45+ of those years, my mother has been a full blown paranoid schizophrenic. It's a heck of a thing to grow up under. And yes, I grew up with both parents. My dad worked all the time to pay the hospital bills from my mom's hospitalizations.

* You assume every woman wants to have children.

I never did, and now that I'm past childbearing age, I'm glad I didn't. My children would have had to deal with a high-functioning autistic mother with chronic depression. Seeing what I went through with my own mother, I'm glad I had the foresight to take into consideration my own situation.

* You assume public school is a bad thing.

I'm a multiple veteran of the public schools of America: 13 years primary and secondary, plus four [closer to six] years college and three years law school, all of them in the public school system. I'm biased, but I got a pretty good education, I think. I'm a fully-employed, tax-paying citizen of the evil System, so something must have gone right.

*Finally, you look back on a time when your race (white, from your picture) and your sex (male) were on top. The 1950s were not a nice period if you were female, a member of a minority, or both. I strongly advise you to read about them. It was not all Leave it to Beaver. I'm certainly not wanting to go back to a time when it was permissible to pay women less and sexually harass and proposition them with no consequences.