Pixelated: What's Love Got To Do With It?

[commonsense]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Marie, good post.

Overall, the point is: we're missing the point. Wasting a lot of energy trying to stop gays from getting married is failing to address the root of the problem.

What I appreciate most about SP's article is his attempt to ferret out the real problem instead of blaming homosexuals for everything.

Steve Pixler's blog and your assessment_________both offer good insight into an ongoing issue.

[DaveC519]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Great post by Steve Pixler! I find his take on these issues to be refreshing and uncompromising. I also appreciate that he isn't placing homosexuality in a separate little sin category, and he isn't afraid to make statements that may be shocking to the church world.

What's Love Got To Do With It?

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Also, an earlier post:

The Homosexual Agenda

What do you think about the idea that heterosexuals are to blame for the breakdown of marriage and relationships? Essentially, he's saying that the same emotions or lusts that lead a homosexual couple to want to marry because they "love one another" would lead a married couple to divorce because they "fall out of love." In both cases, emotional decisions lead to sin.

Great articles! There's a quote from each that caught my attention:

“When loves fades, you find a way to renew it.”

“The only way we are going to stop homosexual “marriage” is by restoring biblical marriage.”

Both are addressing the underlying notion in today's society that love- romantic love- is the one, true sufficient foundation for marriage. While I would argue that romantic love is a necessary ingredient, it alone is not sufficient. Especially in light of Paul's command to husbands that they must agape love their wives as Christ agape loves the Church (Eph 5:25-33).

While there are biblical grounds for divorce, "falling out of love" is not one of them, because Scripture provides healing and renewal for this condition. Dr. Gary Chapman addresses this in his book- The Five Love Languages.

Because many "Christian" marriages look and act much like "wordly" marriages, many Christians have lost the moral ground from which to address the issue of homosexual marriage.

[DaveC519]

Hello MarieA27,

Originally Posted by MarieA27

I'm constantly told over and over again, that we can't overcome sin, that we have to sin, we're human, that God put us on this earth to live life, and we have a right to life, yada yada, but when it comes to homosexuals, they are to forsake that sin, and leave it alone, to fight it, to overcome, and change?

I think you hit the nail on the head. It is a common misconception among Christians that God expects us to sin. He does not. Why? Because: 1)- he provided a way of escape from sin (1Cor 10:13), and 2)- we're being transformed by the Holy Ghost into the image of Christ (Ro 8:29) so that we are not sinners. In fact, I've yet to find anywhere in the NT where it says Christians cannot help but sin. I do find where we're expected to live a victorious life through the power of the Holy Spirit (1Jn 5:4; 1Cor 15:57). I do find that IF we sin, and confess our sin, we have an Advocate with the Father who will faithfully forgive our sin (1Jn 1:9). But the sin issue for the born-again believer is always treated as an "IF", not a "WHEN". Again, with EVERY temptation there is made a way of escape, that we be not overcome with the temptation (1Cor 10:13).

For a Christian to say- as you've heard stated above- that Christians CANNOT overcome sin and are expected to sin means that Christ's resurrection power in us is insufficient to change us. If that is the case, then they are serving the wrong God. They need to find one who CAN change them from sinners into saints. I know I found mine in Jesus Christ the Lord.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I agree; marriage doesn't legitimize sin and stopping homosexuals from marrying doesn't stop the sin, either.

That said, if you didn't read the blog post, you should. It's pretty short and it's great!

I read it. it was very good. I just still want religous leaders to step up and tell the state to get out of our business.

[MawMaw]

Originally Posted by DaveC519

I think you hit the nail on the head. It is a common misconception among Christians that God expects us to sin. He does not. Why? Because: 1)- he provided a way of escape from sin (1Cor 10:13), and 2)- we're being transformed by the Holy Ghost into the image of Christ (Ro 8:29) so that we are not sinners. In fact, I've yet to find anywhere in the NT where it says Christians cannot help but sin. I do find where we're expected to live a victorious life through the power of the Holy Spirit (1Jn 5:4; 1Cor 15:57). I do find that IF we sin, and confess our sin, we have an Advocate with the Father who will faithfully forgive our sin (1Jn 1:9). But the sin issue for the born-again believer is always treated as an "IF", not a "WHEN". Again, with EVERY temptation there is made a way of escape, that we be not overcome with the temptation (1Cor 10:13).

For a Christian to say- as you've heard stated above- that Christians CANNOT overcome sin and are expected to sin means that Christ's resurrection power in us is insufficient to change us. If that is the case, then they are serving the wrong God. They need to find one who CAN change them from sinners into saints. I know I found mine in Jesus Christ the Lord.