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04-19-2013, 03:59 PM
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Occam's Razor
Those that are familiar with philosophy have heard of the Occam's Razor principle. It states that "plurality should not be posited without necessity". Aristotle's way of saying it is, "The more perfect a nature is, the fewer means it requires for its operation."
Can we use this principle to demonstrate Oneness theology? Using this principal, the trinity can be pared down to a unity. Do we overcomplicate the gospel when it should be simple?
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04-19-2013, 05:29 PM
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Re: Occam's Razor
Occams Razor can and should be applied to all doctrine. If a particular piece of church doctrine relies on only one particular verse, or even several versus in a row AND requires engaging in yoga-like contortions to get it to mean something and your particular denomination has built a large % of its Statement of Faith on it, perhaps it is NOT a heaven or hell issue, or most likely, not an issue at all.
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04-19-2013, 08:05 PM
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Re: Occam's Razor
Amen! It should be mentioned that the doctrine of the Trinity was invented, chiefly to describe the Godhead to the ignorant. Is what I am finding. Really?
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04-19-2013, 08:14 PM
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Re: Occam's Razor
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Originally Posted by StillStanding
Those that are familiar with philosophy have heard of the Occam's Razor principle. It states that "plurality should not be posited without necessity". Aristotle's way of saying it is, "The more perfect a nature is, the fewer means it requires for its operation."
Can we use this principle to demonstrate Oneness theology? Using this principal, the trinity can be pared down to a unity. Do we overcomplicate the gospel when it should be simple?
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Actually you preceded me in starting a very similar thread.
My question is do we try and make explanations for scriptures to make them fit our doctrine?
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04-19-2013, 09:18 PM
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Re: Occam's Razor
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Actually you preceded me in starting a very similar thread.
My question is do we try and make explanations for scriptures to make them fit our doctrine?
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I was raised in old time Pentecost and while there was Bible Study in the midweek service the Sunday service sermons were always 45 minutes to one hour of preaching with about 5 minutes max total being scripture texts and the rest the preacher's ideas / conclusions.
Too many times the handful of scripture verses used were taken out of context or totally misunderstand and misused.
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04-20-2013, 09:43 AM
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Re: Occam's Razor
Why does something so important that effects all of mankind require a PhD to understand? On top of that, if your particular interpretation is seen as an error, you will burn in Hell! One would think that the salvation of mankind would be simple enough for every person to easily understand.
Just thinking out loud!
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Re: Occam's Razor
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Why does something so important that effects all of mankind require a PhD to understand? On top of that, if your particular interpretation is seen as an error, you will burn in Hell! One would think that the salvation of mankind would be simple enough for every person to easily understand.
Just thinking out loud!
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We have made it all so difficult.
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04-20-2013, 10:04 AM
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Re: Occam's Razor
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We have made it all so difficult.
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Amen! Simplify it. Let the Holy Spirit lead you, imo. Pretty sure I have Scrip for that, too.
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04-20-2013, 02:54 PM
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Re: Occam's Razor
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I was raised in old time Pentecost and while there was Bible Study in the midweek service the Sunday service sermons were always 45 minutes to one hour of preaching with about 5 minutes max total being scripture texts and the rest the preacher's ideas / conclusions.
Too many times the handful of scripture verses used were taken out of context or totally misunderstand and misused.
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I agree there is a lot of truth in your post.
I know of one example of a minister that taught what everyone was teaching on prophecy and he found a scripture that just wouldn't line up with the teaching.
I think that goes for most subjects. A LOT of scriptures are taken out of context. IMO
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04-20-2013, 03:36 PM
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Re: Occam's Razor
"Hear o Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord".
Can't get any more simple than that...
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