What Did She Expect?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I wonder if the school would have done the same thing if it was revealed that she was living with a male partner, or had an affair with a male partner?

Good question.

[Lafon]

Originally Posted by ILG

I even think some gays are born that way

I could not disagree more with this statement! Everything we do, whether good or bad, wicked or honorable, and this excludes nothing, "BEGINS" with a conscious decision.

Men are born as men, and women are born as women. If either chooses to 'play the role' of the opposite sex, then there arrived that critical moment when they made the decision to engage in that opposing role. It was their decision to make, and they could just as easily have chosen otherwise.

They will have no one but themselves to blame for their wicked deeds, for I am persuaded that even one's God-given conscience served to 'warn' them before they ever engaged in a homosexual act the very first time.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Lafon

I could not disagree more with this statement! Everything we do, whether good or bad, wicked or honorable, and this excludes nothing, "BEGINS" with a conscious decision.

Men are born as men, and women are born as women. If either chooses to 'play the role' of the opposite sex, then there arrived that critical moment when they made the decision to engage in that opposing role. It was their decision to make, and they could just as easily have chosen otherwise.

They will have no one but themselves to blame for their wicked deeds, for I am persuaded that even one's God-given conscience served to 'warn' them before they ever engaged in a homosexual act the very first time.

I think you are wrong about the bolded. There are actually some people born with a medical condition where they are born with the genitalia of both sexes.
They are known as hermaphrodites. Their parents and doctors may decide at birth to make them female when they really identify as male. That is not their fault. Also, some are born with males genes but look female. This is a scientific fact.

On the flip-side, I think there is a terrible trend to make homosexual behavior mainstream and many, who may not truly be gay, are jumping into the bandwagon as a fad. I am opposed to this.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Lafon

I could not disagree more with this statement! Everything we do, whether good or bad, wicked or honorable, and this excludes nothing, "BEGINS" with a conscious decision.

Men are born as men, and women are born as women. If either chooses to 'play the role' of the opposite sex, then there arrived that critical moment when they made the decision to engage in that opposing role. It was their decision to make, and they could just as easily have chosen otherwise.

They will have no one but themselves to blame for their wicked deeds, for I am persuaded that even one's God-given conscience served to 'warn' them before they ever engaged in a homosexual act the very first time.

Not always. How do you explain hermaphrodites? I explain them by believing that they are on the end of a spectrum of gender and gender identity that we can SEE... but we all know that there are many things we can not SEE that are nontheless real (even God is kinda like that). Same sex attraction is not a concious choice for many people... acting on it (or not) IS a choice. Many people who have struggled with same sex attraction have completely given up on God because they have been given this 'choice' speech... and some have even given up on life entirely...

Let's be mindful to not wound any of God's children with our presumptions or with our words.

[MarieA27]

Originally Posted by Lafon

I could not disagree more with this statement! Everything we do, whether good or bad, wicked or honorable, and this excludes nothing, "BEGINS" with a conscious decision.

Men are born as men, and women are born as women. If either chooses to 'play the role' of the opposite sex, then there arrived that critical moment when they made the decision to engage in that opposing role. It was their decision to make, and they could just as easily have chosen otherwise.

They will have no one but themselves to blame for their wicked deeds, for I am persuaded that even one's God-given conscience served to 'warn' them before they ever engaged in a homosexual act the very first time.

What people seem to fail to understand is that, homosexuality just like all sin, is a temptation and desire to that which is against God. You can be gay, and have never acted on the desire. You're not born gay, but neither do you choose to be tempted as such either. People aren't born murderers, but still there are those who have a strong murdering desire, the same as people who lie, steal, and cheat, etc., Do we call a man, an adulterer, if he never goes out and physically cheats, but strongly desires to, and can't even be a husband to his wife because of these desires?

[ILG]

And I think with all the genetically modified food and prescription drugs in the water etc., who knows what sort of weird things we are concocting in the bodies of people? I think we need to be careful what we condemn.

But I don't think the woman in this article should have put the school in this position. That was a choice she made.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by MarieA27

What people seem to fail to understand is that, homosexuality just like all sin, is a temptation and desire to that which is against God. You can be gay, and have never acted on the desire. You're not born gay, but neither do you choose to be tempted as such either. People aren't born murderers, but still there are those who have a strong murdering desire, the same as people who lie, steal, and cheat, etc., Do we call a man, an adulterer, if he never goes out and physically cheats, but strongly desires to, and can't even be a husband to his wife because of these desires?

So to summarize, and please correct me if I am wrong, but you feel that being gay and not acting on it is no different than someone who feels they are but also realizes it is wrong and thus, does not act on those feelings?

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by ILG

And I think with all the genetically modified food and prescription drugs in the water etc., who knows what sort of weird things we are concocting in the bodies of people? I think we need to be careful what we condemn.

But I don't think the woman in this article should have put the school in this position. That was a choice she made.

Yep... hormones from the cradle to the grave now... brought to you by your government supported food production system... But we love those shiny packages and whatever that stuff is inside an Oreo cookie, don't we?

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Yep... hormones from the cradle to the grave now... brought to you by your government supported food production system... But we love those shiny packages and whatever that stuff is inside an Oreo cookie, don't we?

Whoa, whoa, whoa!!! Now you're just meddling...........you just leave my Oreos out of this!!!!!

[Aquila]

When dealing with sexuality we have such a deep mix of factors. We have...

psychology (soul)
biology (body)
spirituality (spirit)

Hormones, pheromones, unconscious chemical reactions and dopamine release in the brain, etc.

So much of it is unconscious and does begin in early adolescence. One can come from the "perfect" family and still have these desires.

I also found it interesting how a rather high percent of twins who were separated at birth had similar sexuality.

The FLESH (with it's biology) is fallen. I look at it like a "bug" in the program. Sin has effected us down to the very genetic level.