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Old 05-03-2013, 10:43 AM
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I'm against all governmental registries of firearms. The right to keep and bear arms is for the purpose of allowing the people the ability to fight off governmental attacks the way the founding fathers had been having to do.

How much sense does it make for that very entity to have a list of ever firearm... it's owner... their address... etc.

That is totally nonsensical
It would be nice if people would think about their statements.

If the government was interested in taking your gun all they have to do is ping your phone, monitor internet sites such as this one, and they would know where, how many, and the make of the guns you or I have. RW tell every one how many guns he has and that one is in the trunk of his car while he's at school. The government doesn't need a registry if it decides to take away your gun!!!
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:04 AM
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It would be nice if people would think about their statements.

If the government was interested in taking your gun all they have to do is ping your phone, monitor internet sites such as this one, and they would know where, how many, and the make of the guns you or I have. RW tell every one how many guns he has and that one is in the trunk of his car while he's at school. The government doesn't need a registry if it decides to take away your gun!!!
Just because a statement doesn't make sense to the way you see the world doesn't mean it wasn't thought out.

How would they learn anything about what guns I might or might not possess?

And pinging 311,000,000 people is far more difficult than an obedient populace sending in the info.

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Old 05-03-2013, 11:11 AM
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It would be nice if people would think about their statements.

If the government was interested in taking your gun all they have to do is ping your phone, monitor internet sites such as this one, and they would know where, how many, and the make of the guns you or I have. RW tell every one how many guns he has and that one is in the trunk of his car while he's at school. The government doesn't need a registry if it decides to take away your gun!!!
By the way, although shocking to you, as a CCW holder this is allowed as long as it IS locked in a safe in the car. Some stated even allow parents to conceal carry while taking their kids to classes. AZ is trying to pass similar legislation. Ya know, Emperor Obama cannot be EVERYWHERE to protect of serfs, even though he tries.

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Old 05-03-2013, 12:16 PM
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I'm against all governmental registries of firearms. The right to keep and bear arms is for the purpose of allowing the people the ability to fight off governmental attacks the way the founding fathers had been having to do.

How much sense does it make for that very entity to have a list of ever firearm... it's owner... their address... etc.

That is totally nonsensical
In fact based on the orrigial intent of the constitution, it should be assumed by the government that every man and woman of militia age owns a firearm.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:38 PM
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In fact based on the orrigial intent of the constitution, it should be assumed by the government that every man and woman of militia age owns a firearm.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:06 PM
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This isn't a binary issue. It's not all or nothing. Nobody wants to round up all the guns in the entire country and melt them down.
That's actually not true. Jason Mattera is shown here interviewing a Democratic Congresswoman who admits that this is the beginning, and that they will push as hard and far as they can having handguns as their next objective.

She says that they will use rights of municipalities and states to affect that change. Not caring, one iota, about our Constitutional 2nd Amendment rights.

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This isn't a binary issue. It's not all or nothing. Nobody wants to round up all the guns in the entire country and melt them down. Likewise, nobody wants to issue a bazooka to every family in the country! There is a line, and the disagreement is where to draw that line: and it doesn't have to be at either extreme.

First, the line was drawn in the 1930s no military weapons. NO bazooks, no automatic fire arms.

Anyone trying to redraw the line tighter, is in fact attacking the constitution. There is zero room for debate on this. period.


There is no national registry that I am personally willing to accept.

To be honest, the reason I dont have a CHL is because I dont want my name in a database associated with what firearms I may or may not own. I accept the limitations that imposes on me on how I can carry in public. I follow the law...

I might change my mind about this. but for now the libertarian in me is winning the argument.
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First, the line was drawn in the 1930s no military weapons. NO bazooks, no automatic fire arms.

Anyone trying to redraw the line tighter, is in fact attacking the constitution. There is zero room for debate on this. period.


There is no national registry that I am personally willing to accept.

To be honest, the reason I dont have a CHL is because I dont want my name in a database associated with what firearms I may or may not own. I accept the limitations that imposes on me on how I can carry in public. I follow the law...

I might change my mind about this. but for now the libertarian in me is winning the argument.
One reason my husband has hesitated getting a CHL.

Here is the law in Texas for carrying a loaded weapon without a CHL:

Texas Weapons Laws
The General Firearms Laws of The State of Texas:


In Texas, it is generally illegal to carry a handgun outside of a person’s own premises. However, a person may carry, either open or concealed, in a non-threatening or alarming manner, a shotgun or rifle.

However even with a handgun, in Texas, there are several places where a person may possess a handgun legally without the benefit of a Texas Concealed Handgun License (CHL). These places include:

A person’s residence or other real property under their control.

A person’s private motor vehicle or watercraft if the handgun is concealed, and the person is legal to possess a firearm, is not a member of a street gang, and is not engaged in the commission of a crime greater than a Class C misdemeanor traffic or boating violation.

A person engaged in lawful fishing, hunting, or other sporting activity on the immediate premises where the activity is conducted, or is en route between the premises and the persons’ residence or motor vehicle, if the firearm is a type commonly used in the activity.

While storing a loaded firearm, it must be in a place which cannot be accessed by a child under the age of 17, or secured with a trigger lock if there is reason to know that a child under 17 may gain access to the firearm.

http://www.uslawshield.com/texas/texas-gun-law/
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First, the line was drawn in the 1930s no military weapons. NO bazooks, no automatic fire arms.

Anyone trying to redraw the line tighter, is in fact attacking the constitution....
How's that? The constitution doesn't draw the line. And "military weapons" is pretty ambiguous. There are military issue hand guns, but those are not banned for citizens.
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How's that? The constitution doesn't draw the line. And "military weapons" is pretty ambiguous. There are military issue hand guns, but those are not banned for citizens.
Timmy dont be obtuse.

the decision in the 1930s regarding what guns could and could not be held by non-military personel is well established and we have lived with that as the law of the land.

you know full well what that means. we all do.
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