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Old 05-09-2013, 03:15 PM
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One does not have the Holy Ghost if they didn't speak in tongues.
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:28 PM
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:30 PM
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:31 PM
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:23 PM
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If this is true why give the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues?
John 16:13 tells us that when he the spirit of truth is come, he will guide into all truth. IMHO this is why God pours his spirit out on "all flesh" to lead them into all truth. I truly believe that when person receives the spirit God will lead them UNLESS they become distracted and eventually hardened because of tradition, sin, etc. TD Jakes several years ago made a statement (wish I could find the original quote) he said basically that denominations do not tell us what you believe, they simply tell us where you stopped following God. I believe this to be very true.

When people are truly seeking after God he will lead them. But many people resist the leading of the Lord or simply disobey it because the church their in tells them it is not necessary, a family member discourages them, etc. This is true even in the "apostolic" church. The majority of members have never grown in their walk with God. Most cannot even tell you why they believe what they say they believe/dress/live/etc.
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:43 PM
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Sez who? You got a Scripture for this, I hope. What yack. Wadr.
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:26 PM
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John 16:13 tells us that when he the spirit of truth is come, he will guide into all truth. IMHO this is why God pours his spirit out on "all flesh" to lead them into all truth. I truly believe that when person receives the spirit God will lead them UNLESS they become distracted and eventually hardened because of tradition, sin, etc. TD Jakes several years ago made a statement (wish I could find the original quote) he said basically that denominations do not tell us what you believe, they simply tell us where you stopped following God. I believe this to be very true.

When people are truly seeking after God he will lead them. But many people resist the leading of the Lord or simply disobey it because the church their in tells them it is not necessary, a family member discourages them, etc. This is true even in the "apostolic" church. The majority of members have never grown in their walk with God. Most cannot even tell you why they believe what they say they believe/dress/live/etc.
Bishop I have heard Trintarians give a better explanation of the Oneness of God.

I guess my question is why would Jesus being the Baptizer fill somebody with His Spirit with the evidence of speaking in other tongues if they are damned to the devils hell for not following the plan of Salvation according to the Oneness doctrine.

When I left God sent me to the Book of John and the Book of Romans when I was asking Him for guidance.
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:40 PM
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For those who wish to delve deeper into what the Early Church believed and taught as well as why we believe what we do, please take advantage of the following links:

Restoring the Apostle's Doctrine by Rodney Shaw 05/05/10
http://www.newlifeupc.org/resources/...sermon-archive

Series on Christianity and Pentecostalism- Why I am Pentecostal
http://www.newlifeupc.org/resources/sermon-mp3s/series
Come dear brother Yates

The UPCI suffers from the same myopia that every new denomination that came along, the Lutherans thought they were the restoration of the true church, and so did the Wesleyans and the Methodists and so on.

The UPCI is just a step back to the early Apostolic Church, the UPCI is still a long way from being the true Apostolic Church.

Their self-anointing as the Church of Acts falls short of reality.

Their illusion that they are the last step in the way back to the Church of Acts is sadly too real to them.

God is not finished yet taking us back to the original church of Acts.
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Bishop I have heard Trintarians give a better explanation of the Oneness of God.

I guess my question is why would Jesus being the Baptizer fill somebody with His Spirit with the evidence of speaking in other tongues if they are damned to the devils hell for not following the plan of Salvation according to the Oneness doctrine.

When I left God sent me to the Book of John and the Book of Romans when I was asking Him for guidance.
You sure it was God?
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Old 05-09-2013, 06:47 PM
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You sure it was God?
Elder I do. So you know we did not leave because we wanted to follow our flesh and thumb our noses at God.

We love the Lord and have done our best to live alive accordingly. He is our still our Lord and Savior.
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