Restoring the Apostle's Doctrine

[Titus2woman]

Ha! Bro. Larry... we were posting at the same time

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Technically he stood with the other TEN Apostles. Judas was gone and Paul, the twelfth Apostle had yet to he converted.

Just a clarification, since we seek to be Biblically accurate down to the very dotting of i's and crossing of ts.

Mmm; telling a little kid "stay here for the present" springs to mind...also, I'm doubting that those sheep at the "separation of the sheep and the goats" parable followed that formula? Just sayin.'

Originally Posted by Light

One can be called anything. It makes no difference what one is called.

It does make a difference what one believes and is obedient to.

To be saved one must follow what the Apostle Peter said, as he stood with the eleven other apostles.

Please understand (well, everyone else; you have me on 'ignore,' I guess?) that my objection is @ your must. Really you must stop assuming that you are qualified to make these bold, sweeping, exclusionary Proclamations; ty.

[n david]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Amen. They had it, and you don't. Your pale attempts at 'speaking in tongues' via glossololia, and comparing it to the beautiful, miraculous baptisms that were necessary in Apostolic times in order to legitimize Christianity is not even a joke; it is a misdirected lie.

Quite the accusation there. How do you know he doesn't have it?

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

While I have no doubt that this will not sway you from your satanically directed purpose, let this serve as notice that you can fool some of the people some of the time...and don't be mystified at why people are running, full tilt, away from your death-centered churches.

Really?

[Light]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Technically he stood with the other TEN Apostles. Judas was gone and Paul, the twelfth Apostle had yet to he converted.

Just a clarification, since we seek to be Biblically accurate down to the very dotting of i's and crossing of ts.

You've been a preacher how long?????
Here is just dotting of i's and crossing of t's
Just a little bible truth!!!!!

Act 1:20    For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

Act 1:21    Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,

Act 1:22    Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.

Act 1:23    And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.

Act 1:24    And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,

Act 1:25    That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

Act 1:26    And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

[n david]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Really you must stop assuming that you are qualified to make these bold, sweeping, exclusionary Proclamations; ty.

Says the one who told someone "you don't have it;" accused him of spreading a "misdirected lie;" called the posting of scripture to prove a point "your satanically directed purpose;" and finished by claiming people were running away from "your death-centered churches."

You must be kidding me.

[Farfel]

My guess (and what I hope is the case) is that deacon blues' statement was tongue-in-cheek.

[larrylyates]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Ha! Bro. Larry... we were posting at the same time

Yeah! I get that sometimes!
How's the weather? And how is your Home Group?

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by n david

Quite the accusation there. How do you know he doesn't have it?

Good point--maybe I don't. However, I actually respond more to the spirit of a post, and I detected the same well-meaning hype that I got growing up in the Pentecostal church. Let me reiterate that if his experience was somehow different, and mirrored the Apostle's experience of xenoglossy (you would hear it shouted from rooftops, etc--ie YouTube), with accompanying signs and wonders, then I am here to say "AMEN."

Originally Posted by n david

Really?

In context, yes, really. These are educated people, not ignorants. Presuming to tell everyone else that they are--oh, take it as far as you like:--not 'baptized' in the Holy Spirit, not Apostolic, not going to heaven. I stand by my post here, wadr.

Originally Posted by bbyrd009
"While I have no doubt that this will not sway you from your satanically directed purpose, let this serve as notice that you can fool some of the people some of the time...and don't be mystified at why people are running, full tilt, away from your death-centered churches."

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by n david

Says the one who told someone "you don't have it;" accused him of spreading a "misdirected lie;" called the posting of scripture to prove a point "your satanically directed purpose;" and finished by claiming people were running away from "your death-centered churches."

You must be kidding me.

Please go where the Spirit leads you. Sometimes I "answer a fool according to his folly" (not meaning he is a fool), and a review of the last several day's posts might be appropriate to understand where I was coming from.

Just so you know, however, I've apologized to him, like this morning.

[larrylyates]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Please go where the Spirit leads you. Sometimes I "answer a fool according to his folly" (not meaning he is a fool), and a review of the last several day's posts might be appropriate to understand where I was coming from.

Just so you know, however, I've apologized to him, like this morning.

And I likewise. The apology was accepted. I believe we both see the need for rhetoric that is a bit less harsh and hostile. we can both disagree without being disagreeable.