OK to cut glorious hair for medical treatment??

[shag]

My wife trimmed her hair, it was to her mid calves. She had painful knots on her neck from the weight. After trying massaging, We went to the dr, and he said get rid of the weight by cutting it. After 6 months of prayer towards it, she decided to cut it to lower back. Met w pastor and explained it all, he took her out of teaching Sunday school teen girl class, after teaching around 10 years. It helped a lot, and she continues to trim it primarily because of the knots, and has never been able to teach since. Few years ago.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by shag

My wife trimmed her hair, it was to her mid calves. She had painful knots on her neck from the weight. After trying massaging, We went to the dr, and he said get rid of the weight by cutting it. After 6 months of prayer towards it, she decided to cut it to lower back. Met w pastor and explained it all, he took her out of teaching Sunday school teen girl class, after teaching around 10 years. It helped a lot, and she continues to trim it primarily because of the knots, and has never been able to teach since. Few years ago.

I would take my wife and family and leave that fellowship.

Why haven't you done that yet?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

This thread sounds like a thread to either paint people in a corner or to justify someone's sin.... Or both. I would answer if this wasn't hypothetical but rather someone that honestly needed the answer for their personal situation.

What would be your answer if this wasn't hypothetical?

If you were a Pastor and one of your female saints needed to shave her head for the sake of a brain surgery that would improve the quality of her life, what would you advise her to do?

[Nitehawk013]

If it were my wife needing the surgery...I wouldn't hesitate to say cut it off. I need my wife, cut hair or not.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by shag

My wife trimmed her hair, it was to her mid calves. She had painful knots on her neck from the weight. After trying massaging, We went to the dr, and he said get rid of the weight by cutting it. After 6 months of prayer towards it, she decided to cut it to lower back. Met w pastor and explained it all, he took her out of teaching Sunday school teen girl class, after teaching around 10 years. It helped a lot, and she continues to trim it primarily because of the knots, and has never been able to teach since. Few years ago.

Pastor should have had no say in this matter, this was a decision for you and your wife. It was a health issue, that did not need the pastor's input, as was clearly displayed by his actions to remove her from teaching, etc. However, the OP doctrine had him in a no win situation. Too bad, reason and wisdom couldn't reign in this matter.

[comeasyouare]

Originally Posted by BalancedLife

I do not believe the Bible teaches against the cutting of hair on a woman. There is nothing in the OT to support this, there are no laws against it. The only thing is the Nazarite vow which was for a man or a woman. The only people in the Bible that had "uncut" hair were men (Sampson, Samuel).

This is the problem with our movement, we have taken one scripture and misused it for our benefit. We have done the scriptures injustice for taking this one scripture and abusing it. Not only that, we twist the Greek word to fit our model. Paul left it at "let the hair grow long" for a reason.

That being said, it is neither right nor wrong to cut hair on a woman. I have heard the question from people, "how do you define what long is?" Fortunately, I do not have to, Paul took care of that when he wrote the Greek word for long hair which means tresses of hair (or what we would call a ponytail today). Ok sorry for the soapbox stance.


God bless

The Greek verb, komao, had more than one meaning, depending upon the context of the reading passage, but the UPCI omits the definitions of a general "long" length in measurement and bases their doctrine against women cutting their hair (any length) on their preferred definition of "let the hair grow" found in Thayer and Smith in speaking of the Nazarite vow. In the context of a vow komao meant "uncut," but komao is NOT the Greek word for "uncut" hair. In both Latin and Greek there are 2 different words for "long-haired" and "uncut" hair. The Latin capillati (plural; -us, sing.) means "long-haired," and the Greek for this is kome the noun out of which komao is derived, also the synonym trixia. The Latin word for "uncut" is intonsi (-us, sing.) and the Greek for this is akeiroskomes, which is an epithet of Apollo and used by Homer in the Iliad in reference to the "long-haired Achaeans," the soldiers that destroyed Troy. They were famous for "long hair," but they CUT SOME OFF IT to honor the dead, which was a common practice of ancient Greek (and Roman) people. They still had komao even though they CUT it.

In my view if it were such a dreadful "sin" to cut our hair God wouldn't permit us to get cancers, period. And if it were such a "sin," why did God permit Roman authorities to cut the hair of early female Christians when Christians were under persecution? Such was the case with an early Christian martyr called Crispina. Also, the Greeks and Romans routinely shaved or shorn the heads of their female slaves. Only FREE women could grow long hair. Female slaves were recognized by their short cut hair -- the kepos -- to the jaw or cheek. Slaves were abundant in the Empire, and many slaves became Christians. If growing long hair were a requirement for salvation, how could a female slave have been saved?

Go here for the meaning of komao as defined by Greek language experts:

http://studyholiness.com/doc/Komao_blog.pdf

[Luke]

Originally Posted by comeasyouare

In my view if it were such a dreadful "sin" to cut our hair God wouldn't permit us to get cancers, period. And if it were such a "sin," why did God permit Roman authorities to cut the hair of early female Christians when Christians were under persecution? Such was the case with an early Christian martyr called Crispina. Also, the Greeks and Romans routinely shaved or shorn the heads of their female slaves. Only FREE women could grow long hair. Female slaves were recognized by their short cut hair -- the kepos -- to the jaw or cheek. Slaves were abundant in the Empire, and many slaves became Christians. If growing long hair were a requirement for salvation, how could a female slave have been saved?

Go here for the meaning of komao as defined by Greek language experts:

http://studyholiness.com/doc/Komao_blog.pdf

By your reasoning then a rape victim is guilty of fornication because she/he had premarital sex of if they are married then they gulity of adultery becuase they had extra marital sex. This is absurd no person can force you to sin by their actions against you. If christians women as slaves were forced against their will to be shaved then they committed no sin they did nothing wrong just as the rape victim is not guilty.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Luke

By your reasoning then a rape victim is guilty of fornication because she/he had premarital sex of if they are married then they gulity of adultery becuase they had extra marital sex. This is absurd no person can force you to sin by their actions against you. If christians women as slaves were forced against their will to be shaved then they committed no sin they did nothing wrong just as the rape victim is not guilty.

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by shag

My wife trimmed her hair, it was to her mid calves. She had painful knots on her neck from the weight. After trying massaging, We went to the dr, and he said get rid of the weight by cutting it. After 6 months of prayer towards it, she decided to cut it to lower back. Met w pastor and explained it all, he took her out of teaching Sunday school teen girl class, after teaching around 10 years. It helped a lot, and she continues to trim it primarily because of the knots, and has never been able to teach since. Few years ago.

Good for this pastor for removing her.

Thank God for real men of God who will stand for truth and not be swayed.

[Truthseeker]

I don't see the uncut hair supported by scripture