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Re: Former Pastors And Saints.
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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013
Ok...question.
Why is it unethical to "proselytize" siants? It seems to me that the idea itself only holds water if you consider the people YOUR saints rather than GODS saints. If we are GODS and not a certain Pastors, then its all the same field for grazing regardless of what Pastor puts his name on the building we attend. Further, it seems our hatred of "stealing saints" only applies one way. Pastors don't seem to mind if they are the one stealing saints from the more "liberal" Apostolic church across town, or if they take from the local Baptist or Methodist. It's only unethical apparently if someone gets someone to leave our assembly to join another.
Didn't Paul say we shouldn't look at ourselves as being of John or of Paul, but rather of CHRIST?
Of course, my gut says this is another matter of it being "unethical" because it can hurt the tithe/offering bucket of the Pastor that is being left for another. Bless God...don't go messing with the man of gods money!
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I believe you are half right. I absolutely believe it is unethical for a pastor to try and talk the saints of another church to leave that church and come to his church.
But at the same time I think it is disgraceful that a lot of pastor's treat saints as possessions and are so controlling and desirous of the tithe that they do not allow saints who desire or feel led to leave to go to another church to do so.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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