Serena Williams was Right?

[Evenuntodeath]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

So because the majority of rapes happen by people women know women should NOT be careful and take certain precautions to prevent being raped by a stranger?

So you reasoning is because a woman was raped by a stranger that goes to show she was NOT careful??

Who are we to analyze every rape incident to determine whether or not a woman used precaution or was careful???

Sounds a bit self righteous to me.....but of course, that is typical of people who call themselves Christians.


The truth is, these scumbags in the Stubenville rape case(which Serenas comments pertained to) TARGETED her. They didn't get drunk and impulsively decide to rape her, it was planned while they were sober. Her ex boyfriend was angry she broke up with him so he convinced his buddies on the football team to drug and rape her.

They urinated on her, took pictures of her half naked and posted it on the internet, posted pictures of their vile acts all over the internet for everyone to see. They took her in the streets and told strangers to rape her. This has nothing to do with lust or "boys will be boys" as folks like to call it. This was a deliberate act of hatred for the sole purpose of humiliation and vengeance.

I wonder if this happened to your daughter or sister......would you care to lecture them on all the ways they could have prevented their rape???

These young men deserved EVERYTHING they got in the court of law. This young woman deserves NOTHING but our sympathy if we are the christians we claim to be.

[Praxeas]

No my reasoning is everyone should practice caution and common sense as outlined by the quote I posted by ths San Diego DA department to prevent rape by a stanger

And your reasoning seems to be that because most rapes are not by stangers women should NOT attempt to avoid being raped by a stranger....else why avoid answering?

[Praxeas]

You say the young men got what they deserved yet we weren't even talking about that. That shows you are not thinking objectively.

And I believe they did not get what they deserved. The penalty was not harshh enough

[Evenuntodeath]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

No my reasoning is everyone should practice caution and common sense as outlined by the quote I posted by ths San Diego DA department to prevent rape by a stanger

Your reasoning makes the assumption that women who are raped because they did not use common sense, and you used the Stubenville rape incident/Serena's statement to prove your point. Horrible example!!!

And your reasoning seems to be that because most rapes are not by stangers women should NOT attempt to avoid being raped by a stranger....else why avoid answering?

I did not avoid answering the question. In fact, I answered it many times. I have stated several times that it would be more effective on lecturing boys men on how not to rape.

I don't care if the caution statement were issued by the san diego police department or Buddha. There is no evidence to show that rape preventive advice has done anything to lower the amount of rapes which occur. In fact, there is no evidence to show that women who are victims were raped(even by strangers) because they did NOT take precautions.

[Evenuntodeath]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

You say the young men got what they deserved yet we weren't even talking about that. That shows you are not thinking objectively.

Serena comments were about the Stubenville rape case, its certainly within my rights to express my complete views on the case since this specific case was used as an example. It doesn't show anything except that I believe rapists should bear full responsibility for their actions.

And I believe they did not get what they deserved. The penalty was not harshh enough

If that's what you really believe, instead of posting commentary which focus on the victim your efforts would be better served by petitioning harsher sentences for rapists , no??

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Evenuntodeath

It doesn't show anything except that I believe rapists should bear full responsiblity for their actions.



If that's what you really believe, instead of post commentary which focus on the victim your efforts would be better served by petitioning harsher sentences for rapists , no??

My comments never once were about the victim. My posts were about prevention of becoming one.

You on the other hand don't seem to believe women should try to not become victims of rape....that is disturbing

[Evenuntodeath]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

My comments never once were about the victim. My posts were about prevention of becoming one.

Again, the victim was used as an example, that is what Serena Williams comments were about. You hastily agreed with Serena Williams view without even looking into the details of the case. Therefore your comments also pertained to the victim.

You on the other hand don't seem to believe women should try to not become victims of rape....that is disturbing

The suggestion that you used for women to avoid being victims of rape would be ineffective, in my opinion. Now can a woman take self defense courses to fend off an attacker in a dark alley?? Sure. But again, even if she doesn't in now way means she bears partial responsibility for her rape.

Whats disturbing is your outdated view of how rape or prevention of rape should be handled. People who share your views are the reason why rape continues to happen in record numbers and why victims are ashamed of reporting their crime. That sir, is DISTURBING.

[Praxeas]

Please answer the question. Are you advocating women take NO precautions to prevent rape?

[Evenuntodeath]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Please answer the question. Are you advocating women take NO precautions to prevent rape?

I answered your question. See above.

[Praxeas]

Your portrayal of what I said is dishonest. I would appreciate you not accusing me of making statements about victims when you know I told you I am talking about advice to women who are not victims to prevent becoming one.

Second so you are saying the ONLY prevention is self defense classess?

Can you comment on that post from the Sa Diego DAs office and all the other professionals that supported and contributed to that list of preventative measures women take?