George Zimmerman's Ethnicity?

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Godzchild

My kids never went thru anything like that! They were and are happy with who they are and where they came from. My son dates mostly Asian girls (?)and my daughter has a son with a Mexican guy and then married a white guy. We are happy with whomever they choose as long as they "stay out of the local dump" to find them....ya know what I mean as a mom!!! We have had our fair share of .......... <ahem> girls my has son picked in the past..... As for "our own kind".....never fully wrapped my mind around that one when people say that куп глупости
(as my Bulgarian gramma would call it) As for my husband, I met him at a friends family cookout and I knew God had sent him my way. This was confirmed thru our pastor one Sunday morning when he called us up front during the middle of a sunday service! God has blessed our marriage and family beyond words thru the years! I never seen a "black man".....I seen a goodlooking guy who smiled at me and asked me my name.....and here we are 32 years later....33 years TOMORROW July 8th!!! True love sees no color, age or shape. I can get along Lucifer if I have to as long as he don't tread on my space and mess with my kids! I despise racism of ANY type and think its from SMALL minded fools who have no sense of even who they are themselves!

Happy Anniversary!!! I think it's wonderful when someone says that God brought them together because I believe God did that for my husband and I as well.

You have a rainbow family too...and I also despise racism in any form.

As for 'your own kind', there is only one kind.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Sasha

What I personally witnessed from a few children of mixed race is that they sometimes have an identity crisis. For instance, one such young girl wanted to be white like her mom, but her dad was very black and none of the children looked like they had a white mother at all. The girl was upset because she wanted to date a white boy and while she had a lot of white boy friends, none of them she was interested in wanted to date her. The struggle to 'belong' was a horrible thing for her to go through. She isn't the only one I have seen struggle with that issue. Do any of your children voice anything like the above or have you ever seen that?

I have never dated outside of my race simply because I wasn't interested, not because of their color. My sister is dating a black man. I love him regardless because he takes care of her. My brother doesn't like it because he thinks we should 'stick to our own kind' even though he likes the guy as a good friend.

Being with 'our own kind' is normal, I think. While there are some like my sister, mother in law, and yourself who choose to date outside their race, it's not typical.

I love everyone no matter what...unless you pick on my kids. Then I'm a momma bear! LOL!

Good post!

I can speak to what you have in bold, because my niece has experienced that identify crises, her father being Hispanic. Even though a good and decent man, she still struggles with who she is.

One day she was crying and saying, putting her hand up to divide her face, "Half of me is white and half of me is Hispanic. I don't know who I am."

I felt sorry for her, because I don't know what that feels like. All we can do is assure her of our love.

It does render a good example of why some people are opposed to bi-racial marriages. It may not effect the parents as much as it does the children. And in some instances, it effects neither parent nor child.

But for this child, it is a traumatic issue for her. Something she lives with every day of her life.

[Godzchild]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Good post!

I can speak to what you have in bold, because my niece has experienced that identify crises, her father being Hispanic. Even though a good and decent man, she still struggles with who she is.

One day she was crying and saying, putting her hand up to divide her face, "Half of me is white and half of me is Hispanic. I don't know who I am."

I felt sorry for her, because I don't know what that feels like. All we can do is assure her of our love.

It does render a good example of why some people are opposed to bi-racial marriages. It may not effect the parents as much as it does the children. And in some instances, it effects neither parent nor child.

But for this child, it is a traumatic issue for her. Something she lives with every day of her life.

very blessed it did not happen in my family. My kids (son who is what we call high yellow) like his dad, and my daughter looks fair skinned. I am medium olive tone skin (like golden). My daughter has straight hair and my son has nappy hair. Both are happy in their skin. Asked to write as Essay on being "mixed" for her school....she explained that some kids do have issues, but she is happy to be who she is and from where she came from. She said God made her just the way HE knew she needed to be She also explained each of her ethnic backgrounds that she is learning more of each day. (Apache, German, Black and Hungarian) I feel for kids who have identity issues. As for your niece, I am sure in time and growth, she will overcome this and learn to love who she is and where she came from.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Good post!

I can speak to what you have in bold, because my niece has experienced that identify crises, her father being Hispanic. Even though a good and decent man, she still struggles with who she is.

One day she was crying and saying, putting her hand up to divide her face, "Half of me is white and half of me is Hispanic. I don't know who I am."

I felt sorry for her, because I don't know what that feels like. All we can do is assure her of our love.

It does render a good example of why some people are opposed to bi-racial marriages. It may not effect the parents as much as it does the children. And in some instances, it effects neither parent nor child.

But for this child, it is a traumatic issue for her. Something she lives with every day of her life.

I'm supposed to be Mexican-ish.

There a white boy inside this body...


Feel bad for your niece. Everyone that I know who are halfers favor white culture, whatever that is.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Good post!

I can speak to what you have in bold, because my niece has experienced that identify crises, her father being Hispanic. Even though a good and decent man, she still struggles with who she is.

One day she was crying and saying, putting her hand up to divide her face, "Half of me is white and half of me is Hispanic. I don't know who I am."

I felt sorry for her, because I don't know what that feels like. All we can do is assure her of our love.

It does render a good example of why some people are opposed to bi-racial marriages. It may not effect the parents as much as it does the children. And in some instances, it effects neither parent nor child.

But for this child, it is a traumatic issue for her. Something she lives with every day of her life.

I'm really not sure why that is either, but then again, I'm a Heinz 57 white girl. I can't say that what I've seen in common. My sister in law lives with her white mother and although her children have a black father, they all live with my white mother in law. They don't seem to care (of course, they live near Chicago also) and have friends of all races and ethnicities.

I once asked my husband about how life was for him having a black sister and brother both being born in the 1970's. He shrugged and said nobody ever said anything about it nor was he ever teased in school. He said they weren't the only kids who had black and white parents either so it never mattered any to him.

Culture might play into it somehow as well. It would be interesting to know why she feels so torn in half.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Good post!

I can speak to what you have in bold, because my niece has experienced that identify crises, her father being Hispanic. Even though a good and decent man, she still struggles with who she is.

One day she was crying and saying, putting her hand up to divide her face, "Half of me is white and half of me is Hispanic. I don't know who I am."

I felt sorry for her, because I don't know what that feels like. All we can do is assure her of our love.

It does render a good example of why some people are opposed to bi-racial marriages. It may not effect the parents as much as it does the children. And in some instances, it effects neither parent nor child.

But for this child, it is a traumatic issue for her. Something she lives with every day of her life.

Of course the same reaction can come from having a pimple on her chin from a teen girl. I would say if kids are having identity crisis it's because the adults are sending out messages that their identity is not OK.

We have a bi-racial grand daughter. She loves herself plenty being one of those kids that got the best of all races looking very French Creole pretty (my husband is Cajun, I am Mexican, son's wife is mulatto). I think she is the perfect example of the nice creamy caramel we will all be in a few generations.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

I think better markers of measuring your sincere acceptance of other races as equal are to ask yourself why you do not now or did not (if you did not) date across racial lines when you were single, why you attend a church that is at least 90% your own color, live in an area that is not racially mixed or send your kids to school with kids that all look like them... Because if you do these things, chances are you are part of the problem, not the solution and no amount of saying how you believe that people are equal will change that.

So, if you marry someone of your own race, and live in an area where most of the people are the same race as yourself, including your church, and your children attend a school where most of the students are the same race... then you are a racist?

What a bunch of bunkum.

Has anybody ever thought that pushing all this 'anti racism' might be tending to create a backlash among some people?

My wife is the same race as myself. If anyone doesn't like that too bad for them.

My neighborhood happens to be mostly white. If anyone doesn't like that too bad for them.

My children are homeschooled and any 'school' argument is dead in the water there.

We home church but when we did 'attend services' we went where truth was being preached as far as we could tell at the time. Oh, yeah, it happens that most of those churches were mostly white as well. Guess what? Too bad for anyone who don't like that.

I remember attending Abundant Life Church, with Walter Hallam as pastor (they're on tv, look 'em up). Side note: Hallam was raised apostolic, decided there was more money in being a charismatic is my guess...

Anyway, one night he was preaching about church growth (what else, right?) and said 'we need more black people in this church!' People came to their feet and applauded and amen'd and all that.

He said 'we need more Hispanic people in this church!' Another rousing round of amens and 'preach it' and all that.

He said 'we need more Oriental people in this church!' He was on a roll, people were shouting and stomping and it was like 'ole time revival' in the place!

He said 'we need more white people in this church!'

You could hear a pin drop, I kid you not. TOTAL SILENCE.

He said 'Come on, stay with me now, we need more white people in this church too, amen!'

There were a few quiet 'amens' and he quickly went on to something else.

I learned a lot that day about 'racism'.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So, if you marry someone of your own race, and live in an area where most of the people are the same race as yourself, including your church, and your children attend a school where most of the students are the same race... then you are a racist?

What a bunch of bunkum.

Has anybody ever thought that pushing all this 'anti racism' might be tending to create a backlash among some people?

My wife is the same race as myself. If anyone doesn't like that too bad for them.

My neighborhood happens to be mostly white. If anyone doesn't like that too bad for them.

My children are homeschooled and any 'school' argument is dead in the water there.

We home church but when we did 'attend services' we went where truth was being preached as far as we could tell at the time. Oh, yeah, it happens that most of those churches were mostly white as well. Guess what? Too bad for anyone who don't like that.

I remember attending Abundant Life Church, with Walter Hallam as pastor (they're on tv, look 'em up). Side note: Hallam was raised apostolic, decided there was more money in being a charismatic is my guess...

Anyway, one night he was preaching about church growth (what else, right?) and said 'we need more black people in this church!' People came to their feet and applauded and amen'd and all that.

He said 'we need more Hispanic people in this church!' Another rousing round of amens and 'preach it' and all that.

He said 'we need more Oriental people in this church!' He was on a roll, people were shouting and stomping and it was like 'ole time revival' in the place!

He said 'we need more white people in this church!'

You could hear a pin drop, I kid you not. TOTAL SILENCE.

He said 'Come on, stay with me now, we need more white people in this church too, amen!'

There were a few quiet 'amens' and he quickly went on to something else.

I learned a lot that day about 'racism'.

why would they get mad about him saying we need more white people?

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So, if you marry someone of your own race, and live in an area where most of the people are the same race as yourself, including your church, and your children attend a school where most of the students are the same race... then you are a racist?

What a bunch of bunkum.

Has anybody ever thought that pushing all this 'anti racism' might be tending to create a backlash among some people?

My wife is the same race as myself. If anyone doesn't like that too bad for them.

My neighborhood happens to be mostly white. If anyone doesn't like that too bad for them.

My children are homeschooled and any 'school' argument is dead in the water there.

We home church but when we did 'attend services' we went where truth was being preached as far as we could tell at the time. Oh, yeah, it happens that most of those churches were mostly white as well. Guess what? Too bad for anyone who don't like that.

I remember attending Abundant Life Church, with Walter Hallam as pastor (they're on tv, look 'em up). Side note: Hallam was raised apostolic, decided there was more money in being a charismatic is my guess...

Anyway, one night he was preaching about church growth (what else, right?) and said 'we need more black people in this church!' People came to their feet and applauded and amen'd and all that.

He said 'we need more Hispanic people in this church!' Another rousing round of amens and 'preach it' and all that.

He said 'we need more Oriental people in this church!' He was on a roll, people were shouting and stomping and it was like 'ole time revival' in the place!

He said 'we need more white people in this church!'

You could hear a pin drop, I kid you not. TOTAL SILENCE.

He said 'Come on, stay with me now, we need more white people in this church too, amen!'

There were a few quiet 'amens' and he quickly went on to something else.

I learned a lot that day about 'racism'.

So those markers don't apply to you... I am sure there are others that do... look at those. My comments are not directed to any one person... they are simply an attempt to help people get honest with themselves about where they stand with racism and their tolerance of it. I was raised by a mother who was truly color blind... We lived 2000 miles apart for decades... She talked about her friends in great detail always but it was only when I actually met them that I would find out what race they were... and I was often surprised. I loved that about her and hope to emulate it and share it with my children and their children.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

As a Latina who 'passes' as white (light skin, no accent, married to a white guy) I can promise you that racism is alive and kickin' in this country. It is not the 'problems of the past' that are at issue... it is the problems of today. Most people are, at their core, racist. And I've had a birds eye view of just how people who claim to not be racist act when they are with their 'own kind'.

Sadly enough, the church is the last bastion and stronghold of racism. It seems that only in church is it just OK to have no one in attendance of another color.

I think better markers of measuring your sincere acceptance of other races as equal are to ask yourself why you do not now or did not (if you did not) date across racial lines when you were single, why you attend a church that is at least 90% your own color, live in an area that is not racially mixed or send your kids to school with kids that all look like them... Because if you do these things, chances are you are part of the problem, not the solution and no amount of saying how you believe that people are equal will change that.

Perhaps it's the area of the country in which we live. I was raised in Chicago and went to schools that were about equal in white and black attendance. We lived in an area that was mostly black. We also had a lot of break-ins while living there, although we don't know what color those people were.

I once lived in Virginia. There aren't a lot of 'white neighborhoods' since the population is about 66% black in the state, but never had a problem with anyone of any color while living there. The church I attended had a large mixture of white, black, hispanic, and asian. We all sat together, prayed together, and ate together.

I live in an area that is mostly white. I attend a large church and there are several black members with many of them in leadership positions. Nobody cares, even though it's mostly white membership, however, this area is well-known for racism and it wasn't long ago that it was commonplace for the KKK to have rallys on a regular basis.

Personally, because of my upbringing, color of skin has never bothered me. My husband, who is white, has a black brother and sister (not adopted). We don't care because I was raised to see one race...the human race....and we should all stick with our own kind.

People are people no matter what color or ethnicity they are, but I'm also aware that there are many who don't see it this way.