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Old 08-27-2013, 10:55 PM
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*(The Word of God says): *(for her hair is given her for a covering.)

*(Now for you women with long, uncut hair, you are to pray with your

hair down, so that you are covered.)
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:57 PM
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i am so blessed by this sister... i can't stop crying... thank you so much for posting this... though many people around try to scorn or mock me with my hair i will remember this post & be more proud with my hair.... thank you so much....
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:05 PM
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I want to comment on this article so bad, but I have to "like" it to do it!! Argh!
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:19 PM
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The lady in the picture looks pretty sad to me.
Impossible, she has magic hair that should provide her with plenty of happiness.

Is there anything that we men can use to also have that magical power?
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:29 PM
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All we're left with, or without as the case may be, is our foreskins. Not something we can exactly stroke in public without being labeled a perv.
Isn't this how the holy relics junket was born?
Bones from holy men were supposed to work miracles, so there were all kinds of bones dug up.

When someone mentioned that there are enough holy splinters of the cross to make many crosses, the Catholics came up with the ingenious response that God miraculously multiplied the splinters like Jesus multiplied the bread.
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:15 AM
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As true apostolic pentacostal, I believe that we should not cut our hair as women, whether is trimmed or bobed. And this is not for my husband, but as my obedience unto God.
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:32 AM
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As true apostolic pentacostal, I believe that we should not cut our hair as women, whether is trimmed or bobed. And this is not for my husband, but as my obedience unto God.
Thats fine to believe and all...but WHY do you believe it? Paul never used the word uncut. He used the word long. He knew greek well and could have used the greek words that mean uncut, but chose specifically not to, choosing rather to go with long. As the word is inspired by God, that means GOD didn't want the word for uncut to be used. God meant long.

So if long is Paul's word on the issue...why do we feel we have the right to say it means uncut?
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A case can be made from either side using scripture for or against uncut hair from this passage. It's not all that cut and dried unless it's a personal conviction, in which case you can argue the passage compellingly from your convictions.

For me it comes down to this: long hair on a male is effeminate, but long hair on a female is her crowning glory.
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Segraves, Daniel L. “Hair Length in the Bible” WAP, 1989 (pages 43 – 45)
A question generally arises at this point: How long must one’s hair be to fit the biblical definition of “long?” The answer centers on the meaning of the Greek words Koma (a verb) and Kome (a noun).
Koma is translated “have long hair” both in verses 14 and 15. According to Gingrich’s lexicon, the work means to “wear long hair, let one’s hair grow long.” Thayer’s Lexicon renders it “to let the hair grow, have long hair.” Obviously, someone cannot allow hair to grow and cut it at the same time.
Kome is the word translated “hair” in the phrase “for her hair is given her for a covering” (verse 15). The passages cited by Bauer’s lexicon and Moulton and Miligan’s Vocabulary of the Greek New Testament indicate that kome refers to uncut hair. The passages cited by these works in which his word occurs in Greek literature demand the meaning of “uncut hair.” The word kome is also used to describe the Nazarite, who were forbidden to cut their hair.
Long hair is hair that has not been shorn, or cut; it has been allowed to grow. It does not require a specific length . . .
The statement “for her hair is given her for a covering” is critical to the entire passage, for it provides the only specific definition of a covering in the passage . . .
What does the phrase “if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him mean? . . .
This is not to suggest that a man does well if he merely cuts his hair with great infrequency. Underlying this entire passage is the Bible teaching of the distinction between men and women. While a man might be able to escape the technical definition of “long hair” by having his hair cut once in a great while, he could very well violate the spirit of the passage by giving the appearance of having uncut hair and by blurring the distinction between the sexes. The woman’s hair should be clearly long and uncut; the man’s hair should be clearly short and cut.
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If one wants to believe Paul was commanding women to have long hair, I can probably make an argument that he means uncut hair.

But I don't believe that is his intent. For one thing it would logically mean any time hair is cut, even if it's 4 feet long and one cuts off 2 inches, the hair is short

So the only real difference between short and long hair is the split ends.

DS understood the conundrum and tried to explain it away but I don't buy it. Men can have long cut hair and still be considered short.

but one thing needs to be understood. There is no word there in the greek for "long". It's actually one word translated "long hair"

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komáō; contracted komṓ, fut. komḗsō, from kómē (G2864), hair. To have long hair (1Co_11:14-15). Paul teaches that a woman's hair ought to be different from a man's, and that a woman's hair is equivalent to a peribólaion (G4018), something that is wrapped around, a veil or mantle. From the context, it seems that the woman's hair ought to be distinct from a man's hair, not only in length, but also in ornamentation.

When I was a kid, I used to let my hair grow out. I would not cut it for a long time, then get it cut or trimmed but it was still young. It seems that, to me, the intent is not to "never ever cut" but to "grow it long"
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:24 AM
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A case can be made from either side using scripture for or against uncut hair from this passage. It's not all that cut and dried unless it's a personal conviction, in which case you can argue the passage compellingly from your convictions.

For me it comes down to this: long hair on a male is effeminate, but long hair on a female is her crowning glory.
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That's it Amanah. I love long hair and won't cut mine. But I don't condemn those that do. What I think we all see is the teaching or thinking that the power of God is in the hair itself.
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