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08-28-2013, 10:45 AM
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Re: True Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness
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Originally Posted by kclee4jc
right on once again!
Uncut hair is simply obedience. There is POWER in obedience. I didn't need a book or theology steeped in mysticism to get that revelation. Just a heart desiring to do what is right before God and an honest look at I Corinthians 11.
I have heard Bro. Stoneking teach on uncut hair and while I know that he is a little on the finatic side of pretty much anything (not sayin thats a bad thing...just his personality)...I do not believe he is spewing what people are accusing him of. Anyone can take any doctrine or teaching (good or bad) and run with it...making it something it was not intended to be. That is what many (IMO) have done with Bro. Stoneking's teaching on uncut hair.
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That word 'power' means authority. It does NOT mean I can lay my uncut on the hood of my car an and it will start.
And think on this...
There are zillions of women who do not cut their hair, and for religious reasons. Do they all have the same power? And is this soul saving power?
How do you or LS explain the women who do not cut their hair, but have met with a tragedy?
MY SIL is a UPCI pastor's wife...Apostolic born and bred. Never cut her hair, yet in 2001 her 20 year old son went into a diabetic coma and died. Where was the protection?
This teaching is outrageous!
And if you or anyone else in LS's corner think folks are making this up, go to YouTube and listen to his videos...it is disgusting.
I do NOT cut my hair, but not because of some concocted notion that I can perform miracles by the laying on of my hair.
If that were the case, laying on of hair would have been mentioned in the same breath as laying on of hands.
The healing power is in God alone!
If it is in my hair, God loses the glory.
Amen and Amen!
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08-28-2013, 10:50 AM
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Re: True Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness
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Originally Posted by houston
WRONG!!! It was endorsed in the Pentecostal Herald.
The UPCI website had a pic posted of a woman praying over an offering basket with her hair.
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That is plain witchcraft.
There is no difference between that and praying over the offering with the bone of a holy person?
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08-28-2013, 10:56 AM
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Re: True Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness
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Originally Posted by Barb
That word 'power' means authority. It does NOT mean I can lay my uncut on the hood of my car an and it will start.
And think on this...
There are zillions of women who do not cut their hair, and for religious reasons. Do they all have the same power? And is this soul saving power?
How do you or LS explain the women who do not cut their hair, but have met with a tragedy?
MY SIL is a UPCI pastor's wife...Apostolic born and bred. Never cut her hair, yet in 2001 her 20 year old son went into a diabetic coma and died. Where was the protection?
This teaching is outrageous!
And if you or anyone else in LS's corner think folks are making this up, go to YouTube and listen to his videos...it is disgusting.
I do NOT cut my hair, but not because of some concocted notion that I can perform miracles by the laying on of my hair.
If that were the case, laying on of hair would have been mentioned in the same breath as laying on of hands.
The healing power is in God alone!
If it is in my hair, God loses the glory.
Amen and Amen!
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You have every right to be outraged, the magical hair doctrine smacks of witchcraft, all that is needed is some hocus pocus Latin phrase.
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08-28-2013, 10:57 AM
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Re: True Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness
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Originally Posted by Barb
That word 'power' means authority. It does NOT mean I can lay my uncut on the hood of my car an and it will start.
And think on this...
There are zillions of women who do not cut their hair, and for religious reasons. Do they all have the same power? And is this soul saving power?
How do you or LS explain the women who do not cut their hair, but have met with a tragedy?
MY SIL is a UPCI pastor's wife...Apostolic born and bred. Never cut her hair, yet in 2001 her 20 year old son went into a diabetic coma and died. Where was the protection?
This teaching is outrageous!
And if you or anyone else in LS's corner think folks are making this up, go to YouTube and listen to his videos...it is disgusting.
I do NOT cut my hair, but not because of some concocted notion that I can perform miracles by the laying on of my hair.
If that were the case, laying on of hair would have been mentioned in the same breath as laying on of hands.
The healing power is in God alone!
If it is in my hair, God loses the glory.
Amen and Amen!
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go back and read my quote please.
I do not believe there is "power" in uncut hair.
Nor do i believe in "laying on of hair" as a doctrine or normal practice.
I do not believe a lady has any more power because of her uncut hair as an act of obedience than i do for keeping mine short.
This hyper junk of power in hair scares me..i believe the Word of God teaches uncut hair on ladies and short hair on men...and God honors that.
I believe people are making an idol out of hair...thats not pleasing to God.
I don't necessarily disagree with anything in your post..except that I'm not convinced LS is advocating what he is being accused of. I could be wrong...and if he is...I very much disagree with that message.
Last edited by kclee4jc; 08-28-2013 at 11:05 AM.
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08-28-2013, 11:01 AM
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Re: True Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness
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Originally Posted by houston
WRONG!!! It was endorsed in the Pentecostal Herald.
The UPCI website had a pic posted of a woman praying over an offering basket with her hair.
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I can't help that this garbage was endorsed in the Herald or what the UPCI website posted.
I'm simply saying that Bro Stoneking's message has been taken to extremes by many in the movement. I don't know that I believe that is what he is trying to promote or advocate.
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08-28-2013, 11:02 AM
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Re: True Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness
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Originally Posted by Barb
That word 'power' means authority. It does NOT mean I can lay my uncut on the hood of my car an and it will start.
And think on this...
There are zillions of women who do not cut their hair, and for religious reasons. Do they all have the same power? And is this soul saving power?
How do you or LS explain the women who do not cut their hair, but have met with a tragedy?
MY SIL is a UPCI pastor's wife...Apostolic born and bred. Never cut her hair, yet in 2001 her 20 year old son went into a diabetic coma and died. Where was the protection?
This teaching is outrageous!
And if you or anyone else in LS's corner think folks are making this up, go to YouTube and listen to his videos...it is disgusting.
I do NOT cut my hair, but not because of some concocted notion that I can perform miracles by the laying on of my hair.
If that were the case, laying on of hair would have been mentioned in the same breath as laying on of hands.
The healing power is in God alone!
If it is in my hair, God loses the glory.
Amen and Amen!
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WOOT!! PREACH, BARB!!!!
Not only does God lose the glory over my hair, but my husband also loses his authority in the house. He ain't gonna like that.
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08-28-2013, 11:04 AM
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Re: True Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness
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Originally Posted by kclee4jc
I can't help that this garbage was endorsed in the Herald or what the UPCI website posted.
I'm simply saying that Bro Stoneking's message has been taken to extremes by many in the movement. I don't know that I believe that is what he is trying to promote or advocate.
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The message has not been taken to extremes. He told his daughter in law to lay her hair on her ill child.
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08-28-2013, 11:05 AM
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Re: True Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness
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Originally Posted by kclee4jc
I can't help that this garbage was endorsed in the Herald or what the UPCI website posted.
I'm simply saying that Bro Stoneking's message has been taken to extremes by many in the movement. I don't know that I believe that is what he is trying to promote or advocate.
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No, I don't believe it has been taken to extremes. I have his message on a thumbdrive to prove that. I've already posted it and am not going to drag it out again, but we have all read it.
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08-28-2013, 11:09 AM
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Re: True Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness
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Originally Posted by Barb
That word 'power' means authority. It does NOT mean I can lay my uncut on the hood of my car an and it will start.
And think on this...
There are zillions of women who do not cut their hair, and for religious reasons. Do they all have the same power? And is this soul saving power?
How do you or LS explain the women who do not cut their hair, but have met with a tragedy?
MY SIL is a UPCI pastor's wife...Apostolic born and bred. Never cut her hair, yet in 2001 her 20 year old son went into a diabetic coma and died. Where was the protection?
This teaching is outrageous!
And if you or anyone else in LS's corner think folks are making this up, go to YouTube and listen to his videos...it is disgusting.
I do NOT cut my hair, but not because of some concocted notion that I can perform miracles by the laying on of my hair.
If that were the case, laying on of hair would have been mentioned in the same breath as laying on of hands.
The healing power is in God alone!
If it is in my hair, God loses the glory.
Amen and Amen!
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The teaching was absurd and false. It was somewhat contained in certain circles. The powers that be were too slow in debunking it for what reason I know not. But the first time I heard of it was on FCF. I went immediately to my pulpit and denounced it. I wrote an article against it. No preacher I was associated with believed it but rather denounced it. There might be a rare case where a godly felt let to lay her hair, hanky, or hand on someone and they got healed BY FAITH not by the object. Do greet Newman for me she shared prayer request a time or two. I really respected her.
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08-28-2013, 11:25 AM
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Re: True Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness
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Originally Posted by houston
The message has not been taken to extremes. He told his daughter in law to lay her hair on her ill child.
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maybe not...i've only heard him preach it once.
Maybe I didnt listen objectively enough to recognize error.
I certainly don't believe what is being preached or practiced by some today.
Like i said, i feel some are making an idol out of hair and developing an ego because of it.
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