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09-06-2013, 10:29 AM
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Re: I'm leaving my church. Please pray.
If your account of your pastor's way of preaching is accurate I would have been gone a long time ago strictly based on that!
My whole point about you having a conversation with him is that you hung in there for years with this situation evolving to the point you are now convinced he is talking about you re tithing so why not clear the air about it before you leave?
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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09-06-2013, 11:34 AM
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Re: I'm leaving my church. Please pray.
Wow, what a tremendous thing to endure! Reminds me of my own testimony in many ways. The difficulty of a trial is one thing but to be misunderstood is salt in the wound. I made a geographical move while in a spiritual valley, man that turned out bad! After 6 months, I moved back home. Good move. Over a year ago I strongly considered a move again because my sense of tradition was violated, felt very misunderstood in my financial and health problems. Long story short I failed to live up to others expectations of me. My wife and I were in the trial of our lives (5 years tear down, 2 years restoration, making it 7 years ) and we were not sprinting this race but rather crawling at a very slow pace. We were hurt, offended and my pastor let some of it happen, not sure he could've prevent it anyway. Add to all this the false starts in ministry. What a let down! I went to God with my mind made up to leave and I was there to pray about where to go. I take my ministry seriously and was not /am not willing to just go sit under any ministry. So I prayed with the intent to leave. The Lord spoke to me and said "You will go no where until you pray for that pastor, leaders and church". This was a difficult thing the Lord wanted me to do. Over the following weeks of daily prayer I began to learn that I was grossly misunderstanding the situation. Today a year or so later after weeks of prayer and monthly casual meetings with my pastor, the issue is resolved. My wife and I are prospering in our walk with God and ministry these days. Ive been in ministry one form or another for 20 years now. Ive been everything from usher to pastor, now evangelist. I say all this to qualify my answer to you and remind you that you are not alone. I notice that you named this thread "Im leaving my church, please pray". Please make it your mission to pray for that pastor before you go anywhere. I implore you, don't move then pray for God to bless your decision. Have you met with your pastor? Pray then meet. Give your pastor a shot at better understanding where you are at now. Give yourself a shot at understanding his position towards you. Meet with him casually, in a public place ( I met mine at restaurants cuz food helps break tension) without confrontation in mind, several times if need be. Give God room to work before you make up your mind.
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09-06-2013, 11:42 AM
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Re: I'm leaving my church. Please pray.
Have yo thought of having a sit down with him and discuss your concerns? I don't know him maybe it is impossible? But you have all that time and life involved why not give him a chance. Preachers are human maybe he just misspoke and might apologize to you or maybe you wasn't in his thoughts/
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09-06-2013, 11:47 AM
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Re: I'm leaving my church. Please pray.
Heard this song at work today and thought of you, brother.
I am almost positive that this was recorded live at Faith World, in the "City Beautiful".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja2XaS_JeDk
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09-06-2013, 11:48 AM
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Re: I'm leaving my church. Please pray.
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Heard this song at work today and thought of you, brother.
I am almost positive that this was recorded live at Faith World, in the "City Beautiful".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja2XaS_JeDk
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I lived on this song in my trials. thanks for the reminder of it.
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09-06-2013, 01:40 PM
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Re: I'm leaving my church. Please pray.
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Have yo thought of having a sit down with him and discuss your concerns? I don't know him maybe it is impossible? But you have all that time and life involved why not give him a chance. Preachers are human maybe he just misspoke and might apologize to you or maybe you wasn't in his thoughts/
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09-06-2013, 01:43 PM
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Re: I'm leaving my church. Please pray.
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Have yo thought of having a sit down with him and discuss your concerns? I don't know him maybe it is impossible? But you have all that time and life involved why not give him a chance. Preachers are human maybe he just misspoke and might apologize to you or maybe you wasn't in his thoughts/
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I remember one time a pastor was very rude to me. I fasted and prayed for only a couple of days and he ended up apologizing to me. He said the Lord had spoke to him about the situation and he was sorry. I'd rather God talk to him than me, well, if they are listening to God that is. lol
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09-06-2013, 01:46 PM
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Re: I'm leaving my church. Please pray.
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I remember one time a pastor was very rude to me. I fasted and prayed for only a couple of days and he ended up apologizing to me. He said the Lord had spoke to him about the situation and he was sorry. I'd rather God talk to him than me, well, if they are listening to God that is. lol
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I don't recall our old pastor ever apologizing for anything he ever said or did. OK, IF he did it was of the "I am sorry if you took what I said the wrong way but. . . " variety of 'apology'.
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09-06-2013, 01:50 PM
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Re: I'm leaving my church. Please pray.
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I don't recall our old pastor ever apologizing for anything he ever said or did. OK, IF he did it was of the "I am sorry if you took what I said the wrong way but. . . " variety of 'apology'.
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LOL! Some people are like that anyway. It seems to me, from observation, the more organizational meetings they attend, the more of an entitlement mentality they gain. At least, that has been our experience.
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09-07-2013, 12:35 AM
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Re: I'm leaving my church. Please pray.
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
LOL! Some people are like that anyway. It seems to me, from observation, the more organizational meetings they attend, the more of an entitlement mentality they gain. At least, that has been our experience.
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There are all kinds.
I have been under great pastors and I have been under lousy pastors.
I realize early on that pastors are humans and should be accepted as humans, you will find some that are really leaders and some that are tyrants.
The ministers have a lot of their own problems and they also have to deal with the problems of others, because of that, I tend to give ministers a break and sometimes simply overlook some of their comments or words.
I was a pastor in a small church and I realize that being in the ministry is not an easy calling. I had my own troubles and then I had to deal with the troubles of the church members, sometimes I was a little edgy, and it was hard to keep a loving tone of voice.
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