I'm leaving my church. Please pray.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Have yo thought of having a sit down with him and discuss your concerns? I don't know him maybe it is impossible? But you have all that time and life involved why not give him a chance. Preachers are human maybe he just misspoke and might apologize to you or maybe you wasn't in his thoughts/

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Have yo thought of having a sit down with him and discuss your concerns? I don't know him maybe it is impossible? But you have all that time and life involved why not give him a chance. Preachers are human maybe he just misspoke and might apologize to you or maybe you wasn't in his thoughts/

I remember one time a pastor was very rude to me. I fasted and prayed for only a couple of days and he ended up apologizing to me. He said the Lord had spoke to him about the situation and he was sorry. I'd rather God talk to him than me, well, if they are listening to God that is. lol

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I remember one time a pastor was very rude to me. I fasted and prayed for only a couple of days and he ended up apologizing to me. He said the Lord had spoke to him about the situation and he was sorry. I'd rather God talk to him than me, well, if they are listening to God that is. lol

I don't recall our old pastor ever apologizing for anything he ever said or did. OK, IF he did it was of the "I am sorry if you took what I said the wrong way but. . . " variety of 'apology'.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Real Realism

Wow. This hits so close to home, it's almost like looking in a mirror.

Months back, we had a "special service" announced just days beforehand...when our family had already made plans months ago to another (non-church) commitment. And then comments are made over the platform that if you "don't change your plans to attend this special service" (that we just announced, three days in advance) "you must not love children." What message is that sending to my children to raise them in this type of atmosphere where comments like undermine the spiritual authority we should have in our home? Not wanting to hi-jak this thread, but I just had to point out that it's a common theme, and others are struggling with very similar issues and decisions.

That's so sad. When I hear that kind of thing I immediately realize that the man lacks the ability to speak before people properly.

I think that too many pastors resort to "shock jock" commentary and preaching. Oh, they sound "tough" and "in charge"... but the reality is... they are being crass and tactless. Maybe the orgs should require "sensitivity training", because this is a form of spiritual abuse and I don't think that pastors that do this are aware of it. What the pastor should have said is something more like...

"I think this special service is going to be life changing. I know we all sincerely love our children. And so, I feel in my spirit that you should make every effort possible to attend, even if it means that you might have to change a few plans. I assure you that you'll be blessed. If you can't make it, we're gonna miss ya. But be sure to pick up a tape or CD of the message as soon as you can. I'll talk to the sound people and see if we can give this message to parents for free. Please, only one tape or CD per family. Okay... let's get down to tonight's business... Turn with me to..."

But few men have that kind of gift when it comes to public address. Most just growl an admonition accompanied with a warning.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I don't recall our old pastor ever apologizing for anything he ever said or did. OK, IF he did it was of the "I am sorry if you took what I said the wrong way but. . . " variety of 'apology'.

LOL! Some people are like that anyway. It seems to me, from observation, the more organizational meetings they attend, the more of an entitlement mentality they gain. At least, that has been our experience.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I don't recall our old pastor ever apologizing for anything he ever said or did. OK, IF he did it was of the "I am sorry if you took what I said the wrong way but. . . " variety of 'apology'.

My pastors were the same way.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Aquila

My pastors were the same way.

I'm not listening to a man that behaves in this way, period. When I was a child I behaved as a child, and could be manipulated, when I became a man I put away childish ways... If you continue to sit under this man as an authority for God, you are simply immature and childish.

It is obvious from your (Originalist) post that you know these things, now get up and do as God leads you. You are not required to be stupid to serve God.

[Sister Alvear]

praying for you...

[ILG]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I don't recall our old pastor ever apologizing for anything he ever said or did. OK, IF he did it was of the "I am sorry if you took what I said the wrong way but. . . " variety of 'apology'.

That's the kind I am used to.....

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

praying for you...

Hey, Sis A! How are you feeling?