Four Fatal Flaws That Ruin Ministries

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

By the way, Bro. Epley... do you sing songs out of the Sing Unto the Lord hymnbook? Most of them were written by people who - according to your judgment - would not be saved... do you throw out something good just because it comes from someone who in your estimation is "not saved"?

He just said it was a 'good article'????

[houston]

Originally Posted by Esaias

He just said it was a 'good article'????

right. I am also puzzled by the response.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Good article too bad he isn't saved.

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

By the way, Bro. Epley... do you sing songs out of the Sing Unto the Lord hymnbook? Most of them were written by people who - according to your judgment - would not be saved... do you throw out something good just because it comes from someone who in your estimation is "not saved"?

I think the issue lies in Elders estimation that Grady is unsaved.

[houston]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

do you throw out something good just because it comes from someone who in your estimation is "not saved"?

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

I think the issue lies in Elders estimation that Grady is unsaved.

The answer is probably "no."

[seekerman]

How does one judge and determine if another person is saved or not?

[houston]

Originally Posted by seekerman

How does one judge and determine if another person is saved or not?

do the three step... submit to your pastor... jump through a burning ring of fire...

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by houston

do the three step... submit to your pastor... jump through a burning ring of fire...

I'm thinking I'll get a 'go to the bible and find out' type non-answer.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by seekerman

How does one judge and determine if another person is saved or not?

For a love gift of 1,000 AFF bucks to the GOOPF (see link in my sig) you can get a palantir carved from a piece of glass made in Haifa, Israel which will give you the ability to do just that!

For a love gift of 100 AFF bucks you get some Holy Land dirt (packed in a 1 oz vial) blessed by one of our special guests from Friday's program which will enable you to tell if anyone nearby is saved or not - it will glow light brown in the presence of sinners!

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Esaias

For a love gift of 1,000 AFF bucks to the GOOPF (see link in my sig) you can get a palantir carved from a piece of glass made in Haifa, Israel which will give you the ability to do just that!

For a love gift of 100 AFF bucks you get some Holy Land dirt (packed in a 1 oz vial) blessed by one of our special guests from Friday's program which will enable you to tell if anyone nearby is saved or not - it will glow light brown in the presence of sinners!

Or when Orcs are near.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Or when Orcs are near.

Aren't orcs sinners?