Pastor Shot And Killed While Preaching

[Nitehawk013]

Originally Posted by seekerman

That's certainly no reason to kill someone. Let someone like that go and move on with your life.

He's no only lost his wife, but he's going to spend the rest of his life in a small little cell.

Um, if someone raped my wife I think that is MORE than enough reason to kill him. The fact that so many in this country don't think rape shuold be punished by death further reveals how immoral we have become, how out of cal our moral compasses are.

To be clear, that is how I feel about real rape. In this case, it remains to be seen what was goign on behind closed doors.

[Esaias]

Proverbs 6:34 For jealousy is the rage of a man: therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance.

35 He will not regard any ransom; neither will he rest content, though thou givest many gifts.

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by seekerman

That's certainly no reason to kill someone. Let someone like that go and move on with your life.

He's no only lost his wife, but he's going to spend the rest of his life in a small little cell.

Well.....actually.....he may get off because it is a crime of passion....we'll see. According to some reports he had just found out his daughter was pregnant by the same man who had "raped" his wife.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by bishoph

Well.....actually.....he may get off because it is a crime of passion....we'll see. According to some reports he had just found out his daughter was pregnant by the same man who had "raped" his wife.

Sounds like the story gets worse and worse.

[KeptByTheWord]

How awful if any of these allegations are true.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

Um, if someone raped my wife I think that is MORE than enough reason to kill him. The fact that so many in this country don't think rape shuold be punished by death further reveals how immoral we have become, how out of cal our moral compasses are.

To be clear, that is how I feel about real rape. In this case, it remains to be seen what was goign on behind closed doors.

Deut 22
28 If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out,
29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days

So what do you think about the moral compass of biblical Israel?

[Nitehawk013]

I think most people who read the OT understand that many cultural aspects of it do not apply to us today. Ancient Israel had a habit of treating women like possessions rather than people. This isn't ancient Israel and I stand by my opinion that rapists ought to be killed as soon as possible once proven guilty.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Deut 22
28 If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out,
29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days

So what do you think about the moral compass of biblical Israel?

First, this is a law given by God, and if anything reveals the moral compass of God himself.

Second, this is about fornication, not forcible rape. See http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/ot_and_rape.htm

Third, the case under consideration in this thread is of a man who raped a married woman. Deut 22:25-27 states that forcible rape is the same as when a man commits murder. The death penalty is demanded of the rapist.

The link I gave above gives a detailed analysis of the verse you quoted, showing that it is not speaking of forcible, violent rape of an unwilling victim.

The Bible requires the death penalty for forcible rape.

It also requires that two people who decide to 'get it on' are required to marry.

It also requires the death penalty for adultery, and for kidnapping as well.

That is the 'moral compass' of God.

[Ferd]

You know what I really hate?

I really hate it when modern humans look at ancient civilizations and apply our modern moral code to ancient barbarian people.


I mean I really hate that. Really.

carry on you myopic tunnel visioned people.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Ferd

You know what I really hate?

I really hate it when modern humans look at ancient civilizations and apply our modern moral code to ancient barbarian people.


I mean I really hate that. Really.

carry on you myopic tunnel visioned people.

Which is why we should apply God's eternal moral code to all situations, ancient and modern.

There is nothing new under the sun.