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View Poll Results: Is the NT normative for Christianity?
Yes, it is normative 7 77.78%
No, it is not 0 0%
It teaches general principles but it is not normative 1 11.11%
don't know/don't understand question 1 11.11%
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:49 PM
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Re: Is the New Testament normative for Christianit

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The Roman Catholics do not hold the New testament to be 'normative' for Christianity, they maintain Holy Tradition as 'normative'. Doesn't mean they don't use the NT, just that it is not the 'standard' by which faith and practice is determined. In fact, they would argue that Holy Tradition must be normative, because without Tradition there wouldn't be a NT to begin with. So they say, anyway.

By 'normative' I mean 'expressing the rule or standard by which something is measured'. That something is 'faith and practice', ie what we believe and how we serve God.

For the NT to be considered 'normative' one would basically be saying 'the NT tells us what we must believe and how we must believe it, and what we must do to serve God and how we must do it'. Thus one's beliefs and practices as a Christian would be 'authorised' by the NT either by direct statement, necessary inference (stress on 'necessary'), or 'approved example'.

For the NT to simply 'teach general principles but not be normative' this would be saying something like 'the NT teaches various principles, moral, ethical, spiritual, etc, which are put forward as examples of 'truths', but we must find our own way to approach and handle and express those principles if we find them relevant to our time and situation'.

And of course for the NT to 'not be normative' means we believe and practice what we do based upon some other source of information. This and the previous above stated position (general principles) may be closely related (as in the case of catholicism), or may be utterly seperable (as in the case of paganism or certain strains of Judaism, for example).

A person who believes the NT is normative says for example, 'How do I pray? Let me see what the NT says about prayer, and then let me conform myself to what it says and teaches.'

A person who believes the NT expresses general principles says for example, 'How do I pray? Let me see what the NT says about prayer, and then let me adapt that teaching to and combine that teaching with additional sources and resources, traditions, or my own investigative and contemplative reason to determine a course of action.' Or even 'let me see if the NT expresses similar principles or expressions of faith that I have, but if it does not it does not mean I must change.'

Again, I realise it may be a difficult question, likely due to my inability to articulate properly and clearly.
I think the question is what each Christian sect considers normative. You mentioned prayer. Which prayer, now to pray, ect. Some Christian sects discourage their members to pray vocally during service, others encourage it. Which is normal? What does the bible teach? Are we to repeat the Lord's prayer, how often. Do we pray openly or in our closet. What's normative.

Same thing with baptism. Must it be total immersion or sprinkling. What must the baptzor and baptizee do during the baptismal process. What's normative.

It depends on one's view of scripture, their understanding of scripture. I believe normative is virtually unknown in the entirety of the Christian movement.
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