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Old 11-05-2013, 03:01 PM
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Re: Can God Pray?

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Oneness "explanation" is that the flesh nature prayed to the divine nature. So, they probably agree with the statement.
No. Natures can't pray. That is like saying "soft ran in the race and hard was watching"
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Re: Can God Pray?

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I can't get an answer from an apostolic for some reason. That leads me to believe there are issues with the statement.
I answered
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No. Natures can't pray. That is like saying "soft ran in the race and hard was watching"
I speak of "oneness" that was "taught" to me when I was a teen.
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Old 11-05-2013, 03:44 PM
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I speak of "oneness" that was "taught" to me when I was a teen.
Yeah...it was a bad teaching.

Jesus prayed because He had a Human nature but it was HIS prayers, not the prayers of His nature
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Old 11-05-2013, 04:47 PM
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Re: Can God Pray?

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Yes you did, and I acknowledged it. I thought you were pentecostal, not apostolic.

My bad.

So...I've had one apostolic to agree with the statement.
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Yeah...it was a bad teaching.

Jesus prayed because He had a Human nature but it was HIS prayers, not the prayers of His nature
But HIS prayers wasn't God praying, was it? Per the statement you and I agreed on.
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Yes you did, and I acknowledged it. I thought you were pentecostal, not apostolic.

My bad.

So...I've had one apostolic to agree with the statement.
I am a Christian who believes in Christ Crucified, buried and resurrected. Repentance. Baptism in the name of Jesus. Speaking in tongues and the Oneness view of Jesus Christ being God Himself incarnate, not one of three persons incarnate.
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Old 11-05-2013, 04:51 PM
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Re: Can God Pray?

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But HIS prayers wasn't God praying, was it? Per the statement you and I agreed on.
His Prayers were HIM Praying BECAUSE HE has a Human nature.

What I said was

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Yes I agree if we are speaking about a God who did not become a part of Creation.
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His Prayers were HIM Praying BECAUSE HE has a Human nature.

What I said was
But it wasn't GOD praying was it?
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:30 PM
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But it wasn't GOD praying was it?
It was The PERSON who is God (God is not His name) INCARNATE or become human that prayed. He prayed because He has a Human nature
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