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Old 11-15-2013, 11:02 PM
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Re: Does The Baptizor Impute The Name Of Jesus?

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From this I began a few years ago to have the candidate profess/make a declaration before I baptize them calling on the name of the Lord.
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Kept, If I was being baptized today, I would say, "Lord Jesus, I thank you for forgiving me of my sins. And now I ask you to wash those sins away, in your precious name Jesus, I ask it."
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At that point, I don't believe that we should say that we are a sinner. Because we would have been forgiven of all past sins, and not living in sin.
Maybe I'm wrong but I believe a sinner is one living in sin. We as Christians may commit a sin, and do sometimes but we ask for forgiveness and strive not to commit that sin again.
I believe this could be a personal preference or understanding, and I respect that... but most important of all... as long as repentance is accompanied by faith in Jesus, as the name of Jesus is invoked by the believer, that baptism would be a powerful experience in the life of that believer.
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Re: Does The Baptizor Impute The Name Of Jesus?

Randy, I knew a deaf minister who signed the name of Jesus, though he could speak to some degree, having lost about 90% or more of his hearing when he was about three, i.e. after he had learned to somewhat speak. So, he also said the name, as best as he could, when he water baptized.
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Yes, but the question is WHO is call upon that name? The person being baptised? The person doing the baptism? Both?
I shared Gill's commentary at the end to kind of answer this question, but I will explain more fully what I believe.

I believe that any individual soul that wants to be saved must call upon the name of Jesus Christ, verbally, in order to be saved. Should they do so immediately before or as they are being baptized?

I say yes, as they should be an active, willing participant in their baptism.

Note however, that much of the calling on the name aspect of a person's salvation is done prior to the water immersion act, when they are praying, calling out to the Lord for mercy, repentance, forgiveness, etc.

Should the baptizer say the name of the Lord over the candidate?

Yes, since invoking the name by the baptizer shows his or her correct understanding of water baptism and is a proof of their righteous authority granted to them by Christ to go and baptize people.

Whatsoever done in word or deed. We verbally pray in the name of Jesus as a way to demonstrate our faith in the object of our prayer, but also to invoke the authority of the One who told us to ask in His name.

So, if either the one wanting to be saved is not calling on the name of the Lord Jesus AND if the baptizer doesn't invoke the name of Jesus Christ during the baptism, then there is, in my opinion, a disconnect between what is required by the Word and what is actually being practiced in that moment.
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I shared Gill's commentary at the end to kind of answer this question, but I will explain more fully what I believe.

I believe that any individual soul that wants to be saved must call upon the name of Jesus Christ, verbally, in order to be saved. Should they do so immediately before or as they are being baptized?

I say yes, as they should be an active, willing participant in their baptism.

Note however, that much of the calling on the name aspect of a person's salvation is done prior to the water immersion act, when they are praying, calling out to the Lord for mercy, repentance, forgiveness, etc.

Should the baptizer say the name of the Lord over the candidate?

Yes, since invoking the name by the baptizer shows his or her correct understanding of water baptism and is a proof of their righteous authority granted to them by Christ to go and baptize people.

Whatsoever done in word or deed. We verbally pray in the name of Jesus as a way to demonstrate our faith in the object of our prayer, but also to invoke the authority of the One who told us to ask in His name.

So, if either the one wanting to be saved is not calling on the name of the Lord Jesus AND if the baptizer doesn't invoke the name of Jesus Christ during the baptism, then there is, in my opinion, a disconnect between what is required by the Word and what is actually being practiced in that moment.
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