What kind of pastor is this?

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

She doesn't want to go to hell, she is scared to death. RW, I think from your former background you understand the mentality people in this kind of a situation have. She fears disobeying the pastor is rebellion, and as the sin of witchcraft.



I'm assuming she had his permission to "court", but apparently when wedding plans began to commence, he took it upon himself to publicly disgrace her in front of the congregation, without sharing any of that with her beforehand.

I meant, she should have said that and walked out. That is what she should have done, but I understand the mindset of what keeps people in those situations, at least for a while.

I guess to me having to get permission to DATE is almost worse than having to getting permission to marry. It is micromanagement of a persons personal life in the worst way. We did have people in our old congregation who were "Pastor may I? Pastor may I?", so I know the type.

[RandyWayne]

I know there are fewer of these types of churches and pastors out there now then there was when we were in the org during the 80's, but apparently they haven't all gone extinct yet.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

She doesn't want to go to hell, she is scared to death. RW, I think from your former background you understand the mentality people in this kind of a situation have. She fears disobeying the pastor is rebellion, and as the sin of witchcraft.



I'm assuming she had his permission to "court", but apparently when wedding plans began to commence, he took it upon himself to publicly disgrace her in front of the congregation, without sharing any of that with her beforehand.

Sounds like witchcraft is at work. Using word curses to control saints is a form of witchcraft.

[Truthseeker]

Leave the church, make the plans and send him an invitation.

[Truthseeker]

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/...ing-ministries

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Just became aware of a situation today in my immediate family concerning a former pastor of mine. Although he was my pastor for 21 years, and I've long since gone, he continues to pastor some of my family members.

The family member of mine with which this drama has unfolded has had a courtship relationship with a man in another church for three years. They live about 1500 miles or so apart, and have seen each other a few times a year for the last three years, and it was known to each of their pastors that their intention was marriage at some point.

Just this week, my family member went to church for a regular service, and without warning became the topic for the service, and found out over the pulpit, that she was NOT to marry this man. After three years of being courted by this man, with apparent blessing on the part of both pastors, the relationship had continued.

Now, out of the blue, in just an ordinary service, she was told in front of the entire congregation the decision of the pastor to not allow the marriage.

Now, here's the kicker. Do you want to know WHY she is not allowed to marry this man?

He's black. She's white.

That's the reason. It took this pastor three years, waiting until the wedding plans were in the making, before simply announcing his decision to the church, over the pulpit, without any knowledge of hers beforehand.

Further... and that's not all folks. Hold onto your seat belts for this one.

IF she decides to go ahead and marry the man (as the man's pastor has given his full blessing on the wedding, and has said he will marry them, even if her pastor won't) she will be ex-communicated from the church, and ANYONE who attends the wedding will also be ex-communicated from the church.

Now, this is a family that has literally fallen all over themselves for the last 40 years or so to follow this pastor, now to face being ex-communicated from the church that they have been faithful members of, simply because their daughter has fallen in love with a godly, wonderful young black man, and wants to marry him.

This is an Apostolic, Pentecostal, AMF-fellowship associated pastor who has done this. And let me add this... this is NOT the first time he has done such a thing.

What say ye?

Sounds like your family has some issue of their own to be following a man for 40 years that has this pattern....

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Sounds like your family has some issue of their own to be following a man for 40 years that has this pattern....

Hard to break free especially if a person had been programmed it's rebellion and bad things will happen if you leave.

[jfrog]

Seems there is more to this story.

[phareztamar]

Will be praying for her. My opinion...obey her pastor. It may be that God has some better thing for her just around the corner.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by phareztamar

Will be praying for her. My opinion...obey her pastor. It may be that God has some better thing for her just around the corner.

If what is posted is true then that is some wrong advise.