No Doctors Doctrine?

[renee819]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Didn't Tom Barnes teach trusting God for healing rather than going to the doctor? Worked for him, lived to a ripe old age.

Use of doctors and medicine is greatly abused in our culture, the human body has much greater ability to heal itself than many give it credit. Matter fact, much of the bodies natural healing ability is destroyed by medicines today.
But if you break a leg, get injured in a car wreck, hopefully a trauma center is close by, medical science does a great job of saving lives.

Most threatens to our health is self imposed by unhealthy habits, in diet and activity. Lose that extra 40 lbs and you will be amazed at how healthy you suddenly are. Not with crazy diets, that don't work, only make you fatter. Get the old book, "Fit for Life" eat the menus in it for two years, and I guarantee you'll feel 10-15 years younger and stronger.

Most people eat garbage, nutrition wise, and expect doctors to fit all their health problems with medicine. Doctors treat the symptoms, that cause side effects, then treat the side effects, all to try to keep folks alive, but it is a losing battle, due to diet and activity!!!

We all know it is true, we just have so much emotional issues we don't have the ability to do what we know.

I am trying, and somewhat succeeding in doing something about it, lost 30 lbs over three years kept 20 of it off, working on another 20. When I follow the "Fit for Life" plan it is easy...and I fill satisfied.

I agree! The Drs. have saved my life a few times, but they also have caused me much misery.

I'm thinking that people that are of an age to have children, should learn how to deliver at home. Also there are many home remedies, that people should be using and studying.
Also I've wondered, when people go up for healing that live on cokes and junk food, will God heal them, for them to continue to destroy there health? Is that one reason that we don't see more healings?

[Michael The Disciple]

The two most famous healing Evangelists of the early Pentecostal Movement preached it was a sin to seek medical help from what I recall.

John G. Lake and Smith Wigglesworth.

Were they merely backwoods bumpkins? According to Pentecostal history thousands were healed under their ministries.

[Michael The Disciple]

Elder Donald Lance who was from the Chicago area, I think is now in Tennessee told me back in 1982 all his children were born at home. I don't know if he preached AGAINST Doctors but certainly preached TRUSTING God.

[Michael The Disciple]

The Pentecostal Mission, a Trinitarian org founded in Sri Lanka in the 1920's teaches absolute trust in God for healing. Two things one coming out for the ministry must agree to.

Never ask for money. Trust God only for healing. To take meds or go to Doctors is counted as a sin.

http://wordwillsave.com/cpm/

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by renee819

I'm thinking that people that are of an age to have children, should learn how to deliver at home.

The first Apostolic church I attended was an independant church.
There was a great emphasis on trusting God for healing, having babies at home. Going to the Doctor was seen as inferior, because you were not having faith to be healed. I don't think it is wise to put this kind of pressure on people, so that they feel that they are failing God if they go to the Doctor.

I know of several women who had babies at home, and did not take them for immunizations.

[Michael The Disciple]

Herbert Armstrong the founder of The Worldwide Church Of God taught it wrong to use Doctors.

The use of medicine and doctors was discouraged because members were expected to place their faith in God for healing.[116] Armstrong stated: "Here’s God’s instruction to YOU, today, if you are ill. If we are to live by every Word of God, we should obey this Scripture. God does not say call your family physician...He does not say, call the doctors and let them give medicines and drugs, and God will cause the medicines and drugs and dope to cure you.... Instead God says call GOD’S MINISTERS. And let them PRAY, anointing with oil (the type and symbol of the Holy Spirit). Then GOD PROMISES He will HEAL YOU!"[117] Various members suffered discomfort and even death due to reluctance to resort to medical help, yet Armstrong made use of doctors and medicine later in his life.[118]

Note: Armstrong was not Pentecostal or Charismatic.

[renee819]

Originally Posted by Amanah

The first Apostolic church I attended was an independant church.
There was a great emphasis on trusting God for healing, having babies at home. Going to the Doctor was seen as inferior, because you were not having faith to be healed. I don't think it is wise to put this kind of pressure on people, so that they feel that they are failing God if they go to the Doctor.

I know of several women who had babies at home, and did not take them for immunizations.

Yes, I also believe, that we should trust God first. He is after all, the real healer. Also, I believe that He put Herbs here for our healing. Very few medicines, heal. Most just mask the symptoms. But herbs do heal.

However, I believe like you, that " I don't think it is wise to put this kind of pressure on people, so that they feel that they are failing God if they go to the Doctor."

Right now, I'm looking for a Naturepatic Dr. Can't find one. I have an Onacologist that does believe in herbs, but doesn't know much about them.

But the reason that I believe that we should educate ourselves on these things, is because I believe the time is near, when you either sign up with the Government, or do without, or go to jail. We might also go to jail, as they will say that we are practicing medicine without a license.

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Elder Donald Lance who was from the Chicago area, I think is now in Tennessee told me back in 1982 all his children were born at home. I don't know if he preached AGAINST Doctors but certainly preached TRUSTING God.

Bro. Lance passed away this past August....a good man!

[MarieA27]

Originally Posted by Amanah

This is what my previous pastor preached, trust God for healing, but if you don't have the faith to the healed, then see a Doctor.

This is pretty much where we're at. It's not a "doctors are of the devil" or even necessarily a "no doctors" doctrine. It's mainly just have faith in God, and trust in Him for your deliverance in everything. It's also a judgement call when it comes to providing medical care for others other than yourself. You may have the faith and is prepared and ready for whatever comes what may regarding your ownself, but the other person probably isn't at the same place as you, and those that you have the charge over, as in children or the elderly, you could be just putting them in an early grave.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by houston

You will not get an accurate number here. Those kind of people usually preach against the internet and cherry Chapstick.

LOL! True!

I don't know of any anywhere that preach this, but I am sure there are some.