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Old 05-26-2007, 11:44 AM
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Resolution #1 Clarification of AOF Soteriology

Resolution #1

Clarification of AOF Soteriology
There is no doubt this has long been an area needing clarification. How many do you think would sign on for a resolution that "clarfies" the AOF position??

"Whereas there have been questions as to what constitutes "Full Salvation" and whereas there have been questions as to when and where justification occurrs in the new believer, be it resolved that the membership of this organization wholeheartedly believes eternal damnation is the future of all "christians" not experiencing the New Birth as we have defined and interpreted Acts 2:38 in it's entirety."


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Old 05-26-2007, 11:45 AM
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Old 05-26-2007, 02:21 PM
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I would like to offer an ammendment from the floor prior to voting
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Old 05-26-2007, 02:31 PM
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Resolution #1

Clarification of AOF Soteriology
There is no doubt this has long been an area needing clarification. How many do you think would sign on for a resolution that "clarfies" the AOF position??

"Whereas there have been questions as to what constitutes "Full Salvation" and whereas there have been questions as to when and where justification occurrs in the new believer, be it resolved that the membership of this organization wholeheartedly believes eternal damnation is the future of all "christians" not experiencing the New Birth as we have defined and interpreted Acts 2:38 in it's entirety."


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Seriously, if they are already damned, how can they be "christians" unless the quotation marks are there for emphasis?
Seriously, why is this important to you? Has someone offended you with what they believe in regards to scripture?
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Old 05-26-2007, 02:54 PM
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Resolution #1

Clarification of AOF Soteriology
There is no doubt this has long been an area needing clarification. How many do you think would sign on for a resolution that "clarfies" the AOF position??

"Whereas there have been questions as to what constitutes "Full Salvation" and whereas there have been questions as to when and where justification occurrs in the new believer, be it resolved that the membership of this organization wholeheartedly believes eternal damnation is the future of all "christians" not experiencing the New Birth as we have defined and interpreted Acts 2:38 in it's entirety."
I would change this to read:
Whereas there have been questions as to what constitutes "Full Salvation" and whereas there have been questions as to when and where justification occurrs in the new believer, be it resolved that the membership of this organization wholeheartedly believes that Fulll Salvation/Justification takes place ONLY at the completion of Acts 2:38 in its entirety.

If that were to hit the floor, I guarantee that there would be a firestorm like we have never seen and if passed, would cause a split.
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:22 PM
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I would change this to read:
Whereas there have been questions as to what constitutes "Full Salvation" and whereas there have been questions as to when and where justification occurrs in the new believer, be it resolved that the membership of this organization wholeheartedly believes that Fulll Salvation/Justification takes place ONLY at the completion of Acts 2:38 in its entirety.

If that were to hit the floor, I guarantee that there would be a firestorm like we have never seen and if passed, would cause a split.
You are right. Amendment accepted as stated above.
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:28 PM
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Seriously, if they are already damned, how can they be "christians" unless the quotation marks are there for emphasis?
Seriously, why is this important to you? Has someone offended you with what they believe in regards to scripture?
Yes for emphasis. It depends on your own interpretation of "Christian" really.

Do you view all the churches in your town except "Oneness Pentecostals", as non Christian? Please share.
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Resolution #1

Clarification of AOF Soteriology
There is no doubt this has long been an area needing clarification. How many do you think would sign on for a resolution that "clarfies" the AOF position??

"Whereas there have been questions as to what constitutes "Full Salvation" and whereas there have been questions as to when and where justification occurrs in the new believer, be it resolved that the membership of this organization wholeheartedly believes eternal damnation is the future of all "christians" not experiencing the New Birth as we have defined and interpreted Acts 2:38 in it's entirety."


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I know this has to be a joke ... the "Hell Casting" resolution would be the proverbial nuclear icing on the cake .... to a very volatile situation brewing over Tampa.
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:26 AM
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I don't see how it would cause a big hubub. It's what we believe. What's the big deal?
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:20 AM
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I don't see how it would cause a big hubub. It's what we believe. What's the big deal?
The big deal ... it would eliminate any PAJCer/Water/Spirit minister that believes in light doctrine or refuses to proclaim "wholeheartedly", without of doubt, who God will save or not ....

It's asking them to:

1: condemn "christians" who don't believe exactly as they do.... UNPRECEDENTED

2: to accept the Bernardian 3 step justification model; which Seagraves does not accept ... he believes justification takes place at repentance and remission at baptism ... while Epleyians believe both justification and remission happen at water baptism.

3. play God ....

This is HERESY ...
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