Question for Apostolics

[Charnock]

In sermons and blogs Apostolics preach tongues or Hell.

At the funerals of non tongue-talkers they say "That's for God to decide."

Odd.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Charnock

In sermons and blogs Apostolics preach tongues or Hell.

At the funerals of non tongue-talkers they say "That's for God to decide."

Odd.

context...paul didn't preach the same exact thing to jews and he did to gentiles.

[renee819]

Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Sasha people get hung up on, this in John 7:39..See even though the bible says he was filled from his mothers womb, folks run to this verse to defend the tongues. Now here is the question is there 2 holyghost/spirit, cause the bible clearly states he was filled, so which holyghost/spirit did John have??

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Sasha wrote

That is interesting indeed, and an argument I've heard but nobody seems able to answer. I believe that a lot of the Bible is open to interpretation in some areas, but this one I don't understand at all. King David is also said to have had the Holy Spirit in him also.

I've answered this several times on here in different Posts.

John the Baptist, had the same kind of Holy Ghost that the OT saints had.
The Holy Ghost would MOVE ON THEM, and then it was lifted. And John was still in the OT Law age, which lasted until the Cross.
That is why it was such great news when Jesus told the apostles, “I am now with you but I shall be in you---FOREVER.” (paraphrased)

No one in the Bible ever talked in tongues before Pentecost. And when the Holy Ghost came, it came with TONGUES. And that has been the evidence ever since. That is why Jesus said that He had to go away. That is why, He told us in about 4 or 5 places that He would send the Holy Ghost down.

Please show me where that Jesus changed His mind, and said, [B]“OK, some I will give the Holy Ghost to with the evidence of speaking in other tongues. But then, if you don't believe in speaking in other tongues, well, I'll just give it to you automatically, and you can guess whether you have it or not.” [/B]“Just claim it by faith, as you claim you are healed, when you are not.”

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by renee819

I've answered this several times on here in different Posts.

John the Baptist, had the same kind of Holy Ghost that the OT saints had.
The Holy Ghost would MOVE ON THEM, and then it was lifted. And John was still in the OT Law age, which lasted until the Cross.
That is why it was such great news when Jesus told the apostles, “I am now with you but I shall be in you---FOREVER.” (paraphrased)

No one in the Bible ever talked in tongues before Pentecost. And when the Holy Ghost came, it came with TONGUES. And that has been the evidence ever since. That is why Jesus said that He had to go away. That is why, He told us in about 4 or 5 places that He would send the Holy Ghost down.

Please show me where that Jesus changed His mind, and said, [B]“OK, some I will give the Holy Ghost to with the evidence of speaking in other tongues. But then, if you don't believe in speaking in other tongues, well, I'll just give it to you automatically, and you can guess whether you have it or not.” [/B]“Just claim it by faith, as you claim you are healed, when you are not.”

Renee, I have yet to see a verse that says one must speak in tongues when receiving the Holy Ghost in the first place. There are verses where people are said to receive the Holy Ghost and prophesy...no tongues mentioned.

And while I can agree that John and Elisabeth were in the OT age, the Spirit didn't 'move on them' then be lifted. John had the HG from the womb. What was the purpose in that? What was the purpose of Elisabeth receiving the Holy Ghost when she felt John move inside her? The Spirit didn't 'move on her' then be lifted off.

I'm not doubting the validity of tongues, mind you. I have spoken in tongues several times myself. My issue is people making the Bible say something I don't see it saying.