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Old 12-13-2013, 05:18 PM
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Uh...no.

Trinitarians say the Father was in Jesus and Jesus was in the Father. You make it seem Trinitarians believe Jesus and the second person of the Trinity are two different persons...weird
The ones that I have spoken with told me that the Spirit within the man Jesus was the second person of the trinity.
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Old 12-13-2013, 05:20 PM
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The ones that I have spoken with told me that the Spirit within the man Jesus was the second person of the trinity.
Some may have morphed into Nestorianism without realizing it.
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Old 12-13-2013, 05:22 PM
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Some may have morphed into Nestorianism without realizing it.
Just wondering, when you were in the AoG, you believed the same thing you believe now about Jesus?
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Old 12-13-2013, 07:43 PM
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The revelation is not so much he is the Father but that he is the son.


1 John 4:15 KJV

Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
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Lost as two boys kissing......



But there is hope at an altar of repentence.

"All trinitarians are lost, lost as two boys kissing".

My thoughts on this go to the cross and the identity personified by Jesus when being tortured to death, prayed "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do".
Then, the two thieves on the cross, and their differences of the heart while waiting to die, Jesus offers the one paradise, as he owns up to his wrong. Non condemning, but all about forgiveness to the sincere in heart. Many are looking-striving to please the Lord. Many trinitarians & Many oneness, while many of each condemn eachother to hades for not alligning with their particular thoughts regarding the Godhead, no matter their total desire to plz God in the life. There are sincere hungry in both camps, and there are also others that either toot their horn, or live Spiritually lazy and hypocritically.

Why not pray for forgiveness for them? I wonder how often that happens w those that say "all trinnies or all oneness are lost"?

Yeah, I know, gotta rebuke that false doctorine! Gotta preach the word Timothy, reprove & rebuke that false doctorine!



I'd say Originalist is spot on in this post:

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A new convert, either in a Oneness or Trinity church, has not had enough time to establish a view of the Godhead. So it is preposterous to say they "go back into their sin of idolatry". Furthermore, if God was so concerned with what the doctrinal statement says of the church they happen to be physically in, he would not bother to fill them with his Spirit. If God has considered me to be in idolatry because I was attending a Trinitarian church, then he would not have filled me with His Spirit.

You need to stop your idolatry of worshiping Apostolic "truth" and start worshiping the God of the truth. You are in the flesh on this and are not hearing from God. Your identity is not in Jesus, but in the Oneness Pentecostal movement. That's idolatry.


How about just praying for those that differ from your spotless view of the Godhead, instead of condemning them
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The verse in John that people will die in their sins if they don't believe Christ is the Messiah, the chosen one.
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The verse in John that people will die in their sins if they don't believe Christ is the Messiah, the chosen one.
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The devils believe in one God and are lost. Is it safe to assume oneness apologists have the same mentality as their demonic counterparts?
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The devils believe in one God and are lost. Is it safe to assume oneness apologists have the same mentality as their demonic counterparts?
No it's not safe. But if you are brave go ahead. I'd never say that about others
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James says nitpicking about the God head ranks so low in God's priority the devils don't do anything but shake.

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