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12-13-2013, 07:43 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
The trinity divides God into parts. Some oneness folks live a Trinity by dividing the body of Christ vs living in oneness with each other.
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Lol.. That's funny. Did u come up with that on your own?
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12-13-2013, 08:11 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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We know that, that is why we are trying to help you see a little more of it  |
Is that so?
Are you absolutely sure that you have all truth?
I have searched for truth for years, and I am still not sure that I possess all truth, I am still searching. Yes I am still a searcher for truth, I have not arrived unto "all truth".
The Lord has shown me some truths, but do I somehow feel superior or more saved than the Trinitarians, not really, why should I? I am just a sinner saved by grace.
I love my Trinitarian brethren and I wish them to be saved, YES I know that they do not have all the truth, but then again who does?
If you have found all truth, then I am happy that you have found all truth.
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12-13-2013, 08:23 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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Originally Posted by Abiding Now
Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; a nd so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
God gives the Holy Ghost to those that obey him and the Holy Ghost is to lead a person "into all truth".
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
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How long do they get? I know some Pentecostals that have believed in the Trinity for decades...and yes they spoke in tongues.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-13-2013, 09:27 PM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
Lost as two boys kissing......
But there is hope at an altar of repentence.
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"All trinitarians are lost, lost as two boys kissing".
My thoughts on this go to the cross and the identity personified by Jesus when being tortured to death, prayed "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do".
Then, the two thieves on the cross, and their differences of the heart while waiting to die, Jesus offers the one paradise, as he owns up to his wrong. Non condemning, but all about forgiveness to the sincere in heart. Many are looking-striving to please the Lord. Many trinitarians & Many oneness, while many of each condemn eachother to hades for not alligning with their particular thoughts regarding the Godhead, no matter their total desire to plz God in the life. There are sincere hungry in both camps, and there are also others that either toot their horn, or live Spiritually lazy and hypocritically.
Why not pray for forgiveness for them? I wonder how often that happens w those that say "all trinnies or all oneness are lost"?
Yeah, I know, gotta rebuke that false doctorine! Gotta preach the word Timothy, reprove & rebuke that false doctorine!
I'd say Originalist is spot on in this post:
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Originally Posted by Originalist
A new convert, either in a Oneness or Trinity church, has not had enough time to establish a view of the Godhead. So it is preposterous to say they "go back into their sin of idolatry". Furthermore, if God was so concerned with what the doctrinal statement says of the church they happen to be physically in, he would not bother to fill them with his Spirit. If God has considered me to be in idolatry because I was attending a Trinitarian church, then he would not have filled me with His Spirit.
You need to stop your idolatry of worshiping Apostolic "truth" and start worshiping the God of the truth. You are in the flesh on this and are not hearing from God. Your identity is not in Jesus, but in the Oneness Pentecostal movement. That's idolatry.
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How about just praying for those that differ from your spotless view of the Godhead, instead of condemning them
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12-14-2013, 04:21 AM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
The verse in John that people will die in their sins if they don't believe Christ is the Messiah, the chosen one.
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12-14-2013, 04:23 AM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
The devils believe in one God and are lost. Is it safe to assume oneness apologists have the same mentality as their demonic counterparts?
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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12-14-2013, 04:25 AM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
Agree.
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Originally Posted by Originalist
I agree, but the same rule should apply to Trinitarian apologists who "explain" the Oneness doctrine.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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12-14-2013, 04:31 AM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
I hope you excuse yourself from the discussion. Most ridiculous statement I've read. Trinitarians believe Jesus is God manifested in flesh.
You should be embarrassed with your contradicting statement.
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Originally Posted by Abiding Now
Trinitarians worship a different Jesus. Their Jesus is God the Son, mine is the Son of God.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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12-14-2013, 05:58 AM
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The verse in John that people will die in their sins if they don't believe Christ is the Messiah, the chosen one.
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exactly!
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12-14-2013, 06:14 AM
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Re: All trinatarians are lost!
The scripture that is taken out of context is found in John 8. Jesus starts out talking about the His relationship to the Father. What Jesus is saying is a person who doesn't believe God sent Jesus to save the world from sin is as lost as two boys kissing.
The I AM mentioned in Exodus 3:14 does not have the same meaning as the I am he statement in John.
Hope that answers your question.
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scripture?
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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