All trinatarians are lost!

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Just wondering, when you were in the AoG, you believed the same thing you believe now about Jesus?

Interstitially enough, yes. That was one of the stumbling blocks that had prevented me from being open to the Apostolic movement. As I studied , I began to realize that the Oneness view was identical to how I perceive God. It was also during this time that I began to realize just how divined the Trinity camp was. Some are oneness while others are flat out Tritheists.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Hopefully headed in the right direction. You?

Sure. But i don't have all truth yet.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Originalist

You are comparing apples and oranges. I'm referring to people who DO forsake their sins and start yielding to the Spirit who has come to make his abode in them.

When God fills someone with the Holy Ghost, he is claiming them as his own. He is declaring that they have repented. If someone babbles in tongues and goes right back into fornication, they did not receive the Spirit IMO. They just babbled noise.


As for God "hating the Trinity doctrine". I really don't think God even bothers to "hate" it. I think God is a big boy and can handle someone offering an inadequate explanation of his distinctions. Furthermore, which version of the doctrine of the Trinity are you referring to? Many Trinitarians' version of the "trinity" is identical to the Oneness doctrine.

That's hogwash... It's not apples and oranges but rather apples to apples. Sin is sin. Idolatry is idolatry. It's black and white. I can say the same thing as you as in if someone babbles something in tongues and goes right back to false doctrine.
And as far as what version of Trinitarians I am referring too, all of them. They are not describing Jesus as the Father then they will die in their sins.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Sure. But i don't have all truth yet.

We know that, that is why we are trying to help you see a little more of it

[houston]

Originally Posted by hometown

And as far as what version of Trinitarians I am referring too, all of them. They are not describing Jesus as the Father then they will die in their sins.

scripture?

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

That's hogwash... It's not apples and oranges but rather apples to apples. Sin is sin. Idolatry is idolatry. It's black and white. I can say the same thing as you as in if someone babbles something in tongues and goes right back to false doctrine.
And as far as what version of Trinitarians I am referring too, all of them. They are not describing Jesus as the Father then they will die in their sins.

A new convert, either in a Oneness or Trinity church, has not had enough time to establish a view of the Godhead. So it is preposterous to say they "go back into their sin of idolatry". Furthermore, if God was so concerned with what the doctrinal statement says of the church they happen to be physically in, he would not bother to fill them with his Spirit. If God has considered me to be in idolatry because I was attending a Trinitarian church, then he would not have filled me with His Spirit.

You need to stop your idolatry of worshiping Apostolic "truth" and start worshiping the God of the truth. You are in the flesh on this and are not hearing from God. Your identity is not in Jesus, but in the Oneness Pentecostal movement. That's idolatry.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Huh??

The trinity divides God into parts. Some oneness folks live a Trinity by dividing the body of Christ vs living in oneness with each other.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

We know that, that is why we are trying to help you see a little more of it

So do you have all truth? What is it that I need to see? I think YOU need a little more insight yourself on just what God is expressing when he fills someone with his Spirit.

[navygoat1998]

[Truthseeker]

The revelation is not so much he is the Father but that he is the son.


1 John 4:15 KJV

Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.