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Originally Posted by Abiding Now
The Error of Jesus Only Doctrine
We teach there is one God manifest in three Persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. The Jesus Only people teach that Christ is the Father, He is the Son, and He is the Holy Spirit. Hence, the name, Jesus Only. I believe we can provide proper evidence from the Word of God that this is not the case and that the teaching advanced by these people is erroneous and does not accord proper due and honor to the Godhead.
The Scripture does state there is one God. But the word “one” relates to unity as well as number. I John 5:7 clearly means one in unity, as does St. John 17:11-21. And yet there are three distinct Persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
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Context tells us whether "one" is meant "One in number" or just "One in unity".
However the fallacy here is that the Trinity is supposed to teach God is numerically One..One Being and not Three Beings. Yet the Trinitarian seemingly argues against that notion by making "One" merely a Unity and many Trinitarians take that to it's furthest logical conclusion to argue it simply means a Unity of wills or a unity of agreement and not One numerical being.
Second in Greek it's not always just context but grammar. The Greek word for One has three genders. Hen (Neuter), Heis (Masculine) and Mia (Feminine).
Hen is the word most often used to mean a Unity but does not tell us what sort of Unity or what is being unified or how.
Heis is the word most often used to mean one in number and is used by Jesus when he quotes the Shema. Hear o Israel, The Lord (Yhwh) our God (Theos, singular), the Lord is One (Heis).
Notice also the singular THEOS and the singular verb "is"?
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The Jesus Only proponents basically teach baptismal regeneration.
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That is nothing to do with "Jesus Only" or the Theology you claimed we believe. Second it's not true that all Oneness people believe this and third, Historically your church, the Trinitarian church, has believed in Baptismal Regeneration right on up to Martin Luther
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In other words, the water saves.
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I don't know of any OP that believes it's the water that saves us. Rather it's our faith in Him (Jesus) when we are baptised
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This teaching, plus the implication that if one is not baptized in the name of Jesus Only, their sins cannot be forgiven and they will be lost and burn in Hell eternally.
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Again this is a loaded statement as not every OP makes such a claim. BTW this fellow probably believes JWs and Oneness and Muslims and Mormons and who knows who else are all lost and will burn in hell eternally too.
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We teach and preach that the Baptism with the Holy Spirit is an experience subsequent to Salvation. However, while we cherish the Baptism with the Spirit, we must reject the insistence of the Jesus Only people that the experience is necessary for Salvation.
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Reject that as you will, but this was supposed to be about the ERRORS of the Jesus only Doctrine (a title I reject) and I see nothing here by way of supporting such a claim. Merely stating what you believe or they believe does not prove it is error
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We believe that the Baptism with the Spirit is a part of our Salvation, but so is Divine healing: and while this is a great blessing, it cannot be labeled as a requisite for Salvation itself. There is a difference between that which we must do in order to be saved and those blessings that come to us because we are saved.
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Again merely telling people what YOU believe is not proving someone else is in error
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