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[Miss Scarlett]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Just curious here. In the pictures posted in this thread, how are the guys dressed any differently from the men in the world? How can the world see those guys and know by their dressing that they are christians?

Or are holiness dress standards for women only?

the pictures were posted to show that Apostolics do not wear out of style clothing only, and no other reason.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Miss Scarlett

When the inside is made right, He WILL work on the OUTWARD part too. Isn't this correct.

Yes, which is were the emphasis needs to be when holiness is being taught

[J4Truth]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Just curious here. In the pictures posted in this thread, how are the guys dressed any differently from the men in the world? How can the world see those guys and know by their dressing that they are christians?

Or are holiness dress standards for women only?

People seem to ask this question a lot. Also in regards to women and modesty. The standards or dressing modestly is not necessarily just dressing different for different sakes. Also the man have the same standards more or less.

The main reason women of Apostolic/Pentecostal faith adhering to standards of dress and modesty stands out so much is because the women of our culture is farther gone in regards to modesty. Women clothes in general are tighter and/or expose more flesh. Men clothes by contrast is mostly modest.

A woman that is covered will be suspected as being religious while a man that is covered is normal attire for a man. Its quite obvious why Apostolic/Pentecostal women stand out. Go to any department store and people watch.

Someone on the forum posted a picture of a pentecostal family all wearing simple matching clothes of a black top and jean bottom. The man looked like the average man but the females was distinctly apostolic yet they were all wearing the same style of clothing.

Its the society we live in. Immodesty in women is natural and almost expected in our present day culture. And if a women is not dressed like such some deem to call her old fashioned.

For a simple example, its righteous or right to not lie, steal, or cheat. The fact that a person don't lie, steal, or cheat don't make them holy. But a holy person wouldn't do such and in that regard he won't be any different from the other man that is not holy at all but refuses to lie, steal, or cheat. Being holy is not being different from right, just different from wrong.

[MawMaw]

Originally Posted by Maritha

Wait a minute. There is a standard and it is guided by our spiritual growth in the Lord.
It not only says be ye holy for I am holy, but it is written also
to come out from among them
they will know you are my people ....because you keep my laws
I the Lord thy God am One
I will be your God and you will be my people.
When people look at you, do they have to wonder or guess who you are?
I have never seen you before, but I should be able to tell who you are.
Has a a stranger ever approached you and said, "I can tell you walk with the Lord." Has anyone ever cried on your shoulder and told you their story and ask for prayer, without knowing your name. They won't do that if you have an ring in your lip, too short skirt or purple hair. There is a difference. holiness is reflected outside. Holiness should be your apostolic life. being saved is for life.

Originally Posted by Miss Scarlett

When the inside is made right, He WILL work on the OUTWARD part too. Isn't this correct.

Originally Posted by J4Truth

People seem to ask this question a lot. Also in regards to women and modesty. The standards or dressing modestly is not necessarily just dressing different for different sakes. Also the man have the same standards more or less.

The main reason women of Apostolic/Pentecostal faith adhering to standards of dress and modesty stands out so much is because the women of our culture is farther gone in regards to modesty. Women clothes in general are tighter and/or expose more flesh. Men clothes by contrast is mostly modest.

A woman that is covered will be suspected as being religious while a man that is covered is normal attire for a man. Its quite obvious why Apostolic/Pentecostal women stand out. Go to any department store and people watch.

Someone on the forum posted a picture of a pentecostal family all wearing simple matching clothes of a black top and jean bottom. The man looked like the average man but the females was distinctly apostolic yet they were all wearing the same style of clothing.

Its the society we live in. Immodesty in women is natural and almost expected in our present day culture. And if a women is not dressed like such some deem to call her old fashioned.

For a simple example, its righteous or right to not lie, steal, or cheat. The fact that a person don't lie, steal, or cheat don't make them holy. But a holy person wouldn't do such and in that regard he won't be any different from the other man that is not holy at all but refuses to lie, steal, or cheat. Being holy is not being different from right, just different from wrong.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Miss Scarlett

the pictures were posted to show that Apostolics do not wear out of style clothing only, and no other reason.

Lol..relax. The question was in keeping with the theme of the thread. Since we're supposed to be dressed in a way that sets us apart from the world, how can a man dress to be set apart from the world?

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by J4Truth

People seem to ask this question a lot. Also in regards to women and modesty. The standards or dressing modestly is not necessarily just dressing different for different sakes. Also the man have the same standards more or less.

The main reason women of Apostolic/Pentecostal faith adhering to standards of dress and modesty stands out so much is because the women of our culture is farther gone in regards to modesty. Women clothes in general are tighter and/or expose more flesh. Men clothes by contrast is mostly modest.

A woman that is covered will be suspected as being religious while a man that is covered is normal attire for a man. Its quite obvious why Apostolic/Pentecostal women stand out. Go to any department store and people watch.

Someone on the forum posted a picture of a pentecostal family all wearing simple matching clothes of a black top and jean bottom. The man looked like the average man but the females was distinctly apostolic yet they were all wearing the same style of clothing.

Its the society we live in. Immodesty in women is natural and almost expected in our present day culture. And if a women is not dressed like such some deem to call her old fashioned.

For a simple example, its righteous or right to not lie, steal, or cheat. The fact that a person don't lie, steal, or cheat don't make them holy. But a holy person wouldn't do such and in that regard he won't be any different from the other man that is not holy at all but refuses to lie, steal, or cheat. Being holy is not being different from right, just different from wrong.

One question for you. Please show me a scripture in the Bible that equates holiness with clothing. Thanks.

[endtimer]

I always thought the fruit of the Spirit were standards of holiness as they reflect the character of God. He is holy. Outward modesty would be standards of righteousness IMO.

[commonsense]

Originally Posted by n david

I agree. One objection I have to the UPC dress standards is that it's tied to salvation. Another is this ridiculous notion that dresses are the only modest apparel for women. Simply untrue.

I believe saints should be modest, and it should be discussed in churches. Not with rules and regulations, but just the overall concept of modesty.

Precisely!

[PastorTLArt]

And who determines what modest is? Just because we see someone dressed in a way we consider immodest are they really?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Just curious here. In the pictures posted in this thread, how are the guys dressed any differently from the men in the world? How can the world see those guys and know by their dressing that they are christians?

Or are holiness dress standards for women only?