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View Poll Results: What to do with fake messages in tongues
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Stop the fake immediately.
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Let it finish, and counsel the speaker and intrepeter (if there is one) later, in private.
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Ignore it. What harm could it do?
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Something else. (Write-ins accepted!)
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Trick question! Tongues can't be faked, silly.
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Trick question! Nobody can detect fake tongues.
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05-27-2007, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
A person who is sincere but just off can be dealt with gently.
But there are those who have an attention seeking attitude and who want to come rolling in and show everyone how "spiritual" they are.
That is another matter.
Embarassing someone who is sincere is never my intent.
Most of the time a church that is well taught and has some discernment will know immediately when the false comes forth.
Furthermore, it is often my practice when a prophecy or interpretation goes forth to say something after it comes to affirm to the church that this is a good word.
If I don't do that, but just move on to a chorus or ask everyone to pray, the absence of my affirmation speaks a lot to the saints if for some reason I feel not to publicly address the falsehood. We really have had very few instances of fake or out of order tongues, so it isn't a big problem.
If there was nothing in the message that would be harmful or divisive, I might just move the service on without affirming it in any way. The church would know I didn't feel good about it, but without embarassing a sincere but immature person.
As I said, attitude and motive make every situation different.
A lot of these "off" messages are so general and mild that the worst harm they do is creating a disruption and cheapening the gift in the minds and hearts of those who don't have enough maturity to recognize the human element and see beyond it.
But that is enough to make it worth teaching on and dealing with.
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 Perfect! You never want to embarrass or hurt someone publically who might just be enthusiastic...if anything needs to be handled...the Pastor can handle it later in private.
There is a tactful way to start a chorus, and even say...I am glad they/he/she is worshipping the Lord why don't we all stand and worship the Lord as we sing this chorus...
Great Post Bro. CS!
Blessings, Rhoni
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05-27-2007, 07:03 AM
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Non-Resident Redneck
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhoni
 Perfect! You never want to embarrass or hurt someone publically who might just be enthusiastic...if anything needs to be handled...the Pastor can handle it later in private.
There is a tactful way to start a chorus, and even say...I am glad they/he/she is worshipping the Lord why don't we all stand and worship the Lord as we sing this chorus...
Great Post Bro. CS!
Blessings, Rhoni
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Rhoni,
The only way I handle those things in a public or abrasive manner is if the offender is a repeat problem, or has given out something that could be very confusing or harmful, or if it is a bold, audacious spirirt that wants to take over.
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05-27-2007, 07:17 AM
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I attended a church once where the same person always felt led to give the interpretation and he always gave a similar "Jesus loves you" message. He wasn't harmful except that we would miss out on what God really wanted to tell us.
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05-27-2007, 08:13 AM
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Don't ask.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Thad
one would rattle off, then another, then another, then the first one would come back trying againg. then i was given the cue to start singing a song 
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Ah yes, the duels. When my wife was a kid, there were two families in her church who would compete to see whose messages and interpretations could be the most impressive. They even planned them ahead, thinking up really spiritual sounding messages for the church. Tried to find out what the pastor would be preaching on, so it would "line up"!
The pastor had his hands full with that congregation, let me tell you!
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05-27-2007, 08:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Rhoni,
The only way I handle those things in a public or abrasive manner is if the offender is a repeat problem, or has given out something that could be very confusing or harmful, or if it is a bold, audacious spirirt that wants to take over.
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I agree. That kind of spirit is not of God and needs handled. I remember telling one such spirit to be silent...this is God's house and a house of prayer and you have no business here!:sshhh
Blessings, Rhoni
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05-27-2007, 08:49 AM
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Superheros are evil...
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thad
If it's a poor little New convert I would ignore it and talk with them afterwards
I have been instructed more than once to start playing music to drown them out !!!!! hahahahahahahahaha! no kidding 
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Great time to start singing, "Let My Words Be Few."
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05-27-2007, 10:04 AM
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There are abuses on both sides. Saints who are sincere and are just "trying their wings" so to speak, need to be given some leeway so they aren't quashed in their fledgling trials.
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05-27-2007, 11:58 AM
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Depending on the "message", I would sit them down if it was outright error and misleading, spiritually. If it was the generic "I love you and want to give you revival," and the same thing every time the person gives it, I would talk to them privately.
BUT IT MUST BE STOPPED if it is false. Otherwise a spirit can get into the church and things get really weird after time.
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05-27-2007, 02:46 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pragmatist
I attended a church once where the same person always felt led to give the interpretation and he always gave a similar "Jesus loves you" message. He wasn't harmful except that we would miss out on what God really wanted to tell us.
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I'd say that is harmful...if you are missing out on what God REALLY wanted to say.
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05-27-2007, 02:58 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Louisiana
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What about when the guy is on the mic???
I have a friend who ran a mission for homeless people.Well he and his wife invited me over to speak for a service the church there.There is a man
who posts his picture in one of the local large newspapers that he
has a gift of healing and people line up.Well this man looks as homeless
as they come.I could not believe it when I saw the picture.I don't mean
just hair and a beard but something very akin to mental health.Anyway
he happened to "drop by" when I spoke that night.Naturally since he is
a well known community figure the ministry asked him to say a few words for the Lord.I know they were hoping to win him over.Well that thing whatever he is possessed with walked staight over to where I was sitting next to the pastors young son.He kept saying in this totally shrill voice how Gods word
was a PRISM>>>>>>>all the colors of the rainbow could be seen in Gods word.He repeated that over and over and over.Finally my friend was able to politely get the mic from him.Later after services the pastors son kept teasing me with that ....all the colors thing.It was awful.Thank God for deliverance.
I know now what the man had.Back then it was just annoying but I am a former catholic and this man is catholic.There is a meeting that the men
go to called Decolores.Supposidly some of them receive the Holy Ghost there
and some had been said to go home nuts and need to immediatly go to mental health.Well I can see why if this was a product of it.My poor friend has tried and tried to reach this man.It amazes me that people flock to this mans meetings.Its like how they flock to Lourdes or Fatima.Oh well what do you do with people who will run to see an image on a screen door that they think
is God talking to them.I knew people who actually fell out and came to with messages for others in town from "Mary."
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