End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Paul considered them fellow laborers, doing the same kind of work... In fact, there is even a sense of equality suggested in the language Paul uses with respect to these two servants, as well as certain others... The apostle saw these brethren as a team of workers, each of them, men and women alike, ready, willing, and able to give up all for the Messiah, even to putting their own lives on the line!.. Clearly, Paul had no problem with women serving to the maximum in getting the initial groundwork of the kingdom successfully laid...

Actually, the diametrical opposite is true. The Greek words here denote an assistant - nowhere near "a sense of equality."


They were "equal" in their goal, not role !

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

You seem so obsessed about women teaching in the church? Have you forgotten millions do not have a church? It is ok to teach in a home but not in a church?

yes yes silly sisters, it is ok for women to preach, teach, witness, be used mightily of God in the gifts of the spirit, for healing, miracles, raising the dead, ect, ect, . . . Just as long it's not on the "platform."

One of the platform standards is that you need to have a, um, how shall we say this discretely, modestly and delicately so that gentle eyes & ears are not offended . . .

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by rdp

I've shown you over & over & over & over that this Greek adjective is lexically defined as "one who labors with another in furthering the cause of Christ" or "a helper" http://biblehub.com/greek/4904.htm - Just as my wife "labors" with me "in furthering the cause of Christ." But, specifically where do you see anything at all regarding women "teaching" or "preaching" to men in a church-setting??


Respectfully, you're once again swatting at something that's not there Sister Alvear (something EVERY "women-preacher" is forced to do).

that's it--sic the letters on 'em!

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Let's look at another source...

Romans 16:3‑5 - Greet (1) Priscilla and Aquila my (2) helpers in Christ Jesus:.. [4] Who have for my life laid down their own necks: unto whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles... [5] Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my well beloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.....(1)...... Priscilla, pris'‑cil‑lah, Greek 4252; diminative of Greek 4251 (*Priska); Priscilla (i.e. little Prisca), a Christian woman :‑ Priscilla...·.............. Priska, pris'‑kah, Greek 4251; of Latin origin; feminine of Priscus, ancient; Priska, a Christian woman :‑ Prisca... See also Greek 4252 (Priscilla)...(2) (helpers).. ..sunergos, soon‑er‑gos', Greek 4904; from a presumed compound of Greek 4862 (sun) and the base of Greek 2041 (ergon); a co‑laborer, i.e. coadjutor :‑ companion in labour, (fellow‑) helper (‑labourer, ‑worker), labourer together with, workfellow...

Where does this definition, or, more importantly, the BIBLE ITSELF, say anything whatsoever that would lead anyone to believe women instructed men out of the Scriptures??


Already posted the lexical data on these terms anyway .

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

You seem so obsessed about women teaching in the church? Have you forgotten millions do not have a church? It is ok to teach in a home but not in a church?

Yes, i have noticed the argument against 'women pastors' kind of ignores that 'the Church' is not a building. Um, could you please do me a favor tho, RDP, and refrain from posting every translation of that one trick that you deliberately misunderstand? Ty

[rdp]

Originally Posted by n david

Church Leadership Link

"Elect Lady Pastor..." (Female and the Wife)
"First Man and 2nd Assistant Pastor..." (Male and the Husband)

He's not even the Assistant Pastor, he's the 2nd Assistant Pastor!

Somewhere RDP's head will explode when he sees this!

IMO, this just isn't right, sorry ladies.

- How silly. This does not even merit serious consideration.


The Greek adjective simply means "chosen" & is used of the church as whole over & over (e.g., 1 Peter 1.1).


Woo-Hooooo, now, using this logic, the entire church are alllll "Pastors" & there are no saints for them to even "Pastor" !

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

so all the women were in prision?

Does this text say that women were in prison, or will we now have another mysterious "escape" ?

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

You seem so obsessed about women teaching in the church? Have you forgotten millions do not have a church? It is ok to teach in a home but not in a church?

I'm "obsessed" with the Bible instructions. The "church" is not a building, but rather the assembly of God's people.


Difference in home-Bible-studies with husband-wife team & women assuming a leadership role over men in the church.


11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner...14 Although I hope to come to you soon, I am writing you these instructions so that, 15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church."


Paul is discussing church-order - & women are out of that "order" when they teach men in the church.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

So your wife sits and says nothing in a Bible study in someone's home?

She's my helper (& a very smart one), so she certainly contributes to the discussion. How does this in any way, shape, or form validate women in the set-in office of the 5-fold ministry in the church?


So every women who makes a few remarks at a home-Bible study are now to be automatically considered "preachers" in the NT church ??

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by rdp

- How silly. This does not even merit serious consideration.


The Greek adjective simply means "chosen" & is used of the church as whole over & over (e.g., 1 Peter 1.1).


Woo-Hooooo, now, using this logic, the entire church are alllll "Pastors" & there are no saints for them to even "Pastor" !

it seems to me that above all else, when you have stopped coming from the point of view of 'love,' you are kind of backing up, regardless of your position. There is a sense in which the last part of this quote is true, but you have to get a spiritual sense of this.

I understand how compelling sticking to 'the letter' can be; and understand much better now how the Word can confound--and why you ignore my posts, perhaps. Thank you for helping me to see that women may pastor, and be fruitful.