End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

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[MarieA27]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

You pray for women that preach?

Wow...so just because he don't believe in someone's doctrine, that automatically means that he can't or shouldn't pray for them? Smh

[MawMaw]

I have prayed for you today Sis Alvear and will continue.
May God bless you and your family for all you do to further
the Kingdom. I've no doubt that many will be in Heaven
because they have heard you or somone else in the family
speak to them and show them the more perfect way of
salvation.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by rdp

Where does this text say women were preaching to men in a church-setting? Winning the lost, maybe (thought the biblical data does not state that), but you're arguing in favor of women "preaching to men" in the present-day church-setting, not merely witnessing to the lost (which has nothing to do with Paul's clear instructions to the church).


Still waiting on that biblical text which shows women preaching to men out of the Scriptures in the NT church:___________?

What exactly is a 'church setting' according to scripture? And where does scripture say that a 'church setting' is necessary to be preached in? What constitutes a 'church setting'?

Preaching can be done without using scripture how? I'm puzzled why you keep bringing up certain qualifications to your statements to prove your point.

Prove this: Name the church Jesus preached at, cite where His pulpit was located, and inform us all about the scripture that spoke about His 'church settings'.

If being a preacher means one has to preach in a building behind a pulpit, Jesus was no preacher at all.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by rdp

Phoebe was a "helper" (not Paul's or anyone else's "ruler") - this is precisely what the Greek word denotes - as is demonstrated in all of the translations above, which combines hundreds of professional linguists & translators (working both independent of & in conjunction with one another)

If Phoebe was merely a helper of others, why did Paul admonish men to be her helper instead of telling her to help those men? Seems odd if she was there to help them to tell them to help her. Hmmm...

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by MawMaw

I have prayed for you today Sis Alvear and will continue.
May God bless you and your family for all you do to further
the Kingdom. I've no doubt that many will be in Heaven
because they have heard you or somone else in the family
speak to them and show them the more perfect way of
salvation.

Yes, but Sis. Alvear won't be there, according to some, as she's in disobedience in leading others to Christ.

I wonder how God can ........ someone for being a 'good and faithful servant'?

It edited 'dam'. LOL!

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sasha

What exactly is a 'church setting' according to scripture? And where does scripture say that a 'church setting' is necessary to be preached in? What constitutes a 'church setting'?


The gathering of believers - do I really have to explain this to you?


Preaching can be done without using scripture how? I'm puzzled why you keep bringing up certain qualifications to your statements to prove your point.


Not "my" point - It was the Apostle Paul's. Paul explicitly wrote Timothy to instruct him in church-order. I have quoted the very explicit Scripture over & over & over & over & over & over??


Prove this: Name the church Jesus preached at, cite where His pulpit was located, and inform us all about the scripture that spoke about His 'church settings'.


Umm, big revelation: Jesus Christ was not in the church-age - which is precisely the reason He told Peter "I W-I-L-L build my church..." .



Now, please "inform us all" specifically what the following passages means? Do they mean exactly what they say?


11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner....I am writing you these instructions so that, 15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church."



If being a preacher means one has to preach in a building behind a pulpit, Jesus was no preacher at all.

Umm, specifically where have I ever-once referenced either a "building" or a "pulpit":___________? Please demonstrate what you speculate by copy-pasting my reference to either:_________.


See where assuming will land you? But, hey, anything to cast a cloud upon God's Word & render it of no affect...right ?

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sasha

If Phoebe was merely a helper of others, why did Paul admonish men to be her helper instead of telling her to help those men? Seems odd if she was there to help them to tell them to help her. Hmmm...

Ummm, did you not read the mountains & mountains of translations, Greek definitions & precise lexical data that explicitly states she was "a helper of many, including myself" (or, will you now tell us that Phoebe was the Apostle Paul's "ruler" ?)?


There is no "if" Phoebe was a helper - the Bible specifically says she was a "helper" .



New Living Translation
Welcome her in the Lord as one who is worthy of honor among God's people. Help her in whatever she needs, for she has been helpful to many, and especially to me.

New American Standard Bible
that you receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and that you help her in whatever matter she may have need of you; for she herself has also been a helper of many, and of myself as well.

International Standard Version
Welcome her in the Lord as is appropriate for saints, and provide her with anything she may need from you, for she has assisted many people, including me.

NET Bible
so that you may welcome her in the Lord in a way worthy of the saints and provide her with whatever help she may need from you, for she has been a great help to many, including me.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
That you would accept her in Our Lord, as that is right for Saints, and in any matter that she seeks of you, that you would help her, because she is also a helper to many and also to me.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Give her a Christian welcome that shows you are God's holy people. Provide her with anything she may need, because she has provided help to many people, including me.

Jubilee Bible 2000
that ye receive her in the Lord as a worthy saint, and that ye assist her in whatever thing in which she has need of you, for she has been a helper of many and of myself also.

King James 2000 Bible
That you receive her in the Lord, as becomes saints, and that you assist her in whatever business she has need of you: for she has been a helper of many, and of myself also.

American Standard Version
that ye receive her in the Lord, worthily of the saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever matter she may have need of you: for she herself also hath been a helper of many, and of mine own self.

Douay-Rheims Bible
That you receive her in the Lord as becometh saints; and that you assist her in whatsoever business she shall have need of you. For she also hath assisted many, and myself also.

Darby Bible Translation
that ye may receive her in the Lord worthily of saints, and that ye may assist her in whatever matter she has need of you; for she also has been a helper of many, and of myself.

Weymouth New Testament
that you may receive her as a fellow Christian in a manner worthy of God's people, and may assist her in any matter in which she may need help. For she has indeed been a kind friend to many, including myself.

World English Bible
that you receive her in the Lord, in a way worthy of the saints, and that you assist her in whatever matter she may need from you, for she herself also has been a helper of many, and of my own self.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sasha

Yes, but Sis. Alvear won't be there, according to some, as she's in disobedience in leading others to Christ.

I wonder how God can ........ someone for being a 'good and faithful servant'?

It edited 'dam'. LOL!

Same ol' Sasha (& AFF) - Anything to divert away from God's crystal-clear Word .


Besides, I've said over & over ad nauseum infinitum that women can (& should) win the lost - but how on earth does this nullify (or even address) the following instructions to the church-body ?


11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner....I am writing you these instructions so that, 15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church.


Check back in after church tonight.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by rdp

The gathering of believers - do I really have to explain this to you?

Umm, specifically where have I ever-once referenced either a "building" or a "pulpit":___________? Please demonstrate what you speculate by copy-pasting my reference to either:_________.


See where assuming will land you? But, hey, anything to cast a cloud upon God's Word & render it of no affect...right ?

Can you share the verse that states a 'church setting' is 'a gathering of believers'? I mean, you keep asking others for verses to prove their points...

And since you said that women can teach men about the word of God but not in a 'church setting', and typically, a 'church setting' would be in a building and have a pulpit, well, stone me for assuming...

I'm wondering why there are no unbelievers in your 'church setting' though?