End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

and I sure don't have time for this today...So far have graded 52 tests for our Bible School...big graduation coming up tonight....The attendance is about half and half...men and women...So I am ok teaching our women but wrong to teach our men...So our women will all know so much and our poor men will remain unlearned...
Do your realize I work with a people some can barely write their name...and I don't have a lot of gifts but am a teacher so I start off helping people learn to write their name...Just for the tests the other night (48) were present for the classroom test , I had to have 6 or so going around helping them read and write. Eighteen tiny questions...I could have answered in 5 minutes took them 2 hours to do. Some were sweating and trembling trying to write...So dificult ...so hard for them...Yet they were there trying to learn...and you rdp put me in hell so to speak for helping God's little ones...Yes, eternity will tell a lot of things...We might all be surprized...
Precious little students that worked all day some no doubt without even lunch came right to Bible School to lean without supper...
No, I am not wrong...like my sisters of old I will carry the gospel message anywhere...to the jungles, the cities, the leper colonies, to both the peaceful and wild indians...(I once stood before a group of completly naked indians and told them the story of Jesus)
You seem to forgot your English Bible is not exactly what the original copies read...As you learn different languages you might be surprized how Bibles of different languages read...many depend on the opinion who translates! . I Tim.3:11 is referring to women ministers. "Women in like manner" were to have the same qualifications as men, and were to be "faithful in all things," just as the "faithful ones" of 2 Timothy 2:2. The original copies read WOMEN of like manner....


I fear for you...I am nothing...just an old tired missionary but I am God's anointed and for you to say God did not call you are calling God a lier...or saying I do not know the voice of God....

No Sis. Alvear - I Tim. 3.11 is NOT talking about "women ministers" & I'll prove it before the day is over (only to be ignored of course).


Second, what on earth does teaching young ones an education have to do with teaching-preaching to men in a church congregation?? So now every school teacher is equally a minister in the 5-fold ministry of the church??? You can't be serious (well, never mind...).


And, of course both men & women should go win the lost! And? How does this negate Paul's clear prohibitions in I Tim. 2, I Tim. 3, I Cor. 14, Titus, etc., etc.?? I have stated to you over & over (don't even know why I waste my time anymore) - that you're attempting to intermingle distinct contexts of winning the lost & church order & in doing so you arrive at a false conclusion.


Finally, it's astounding that YOU would appeal to the "original languages if the Bible" - when it's abundantly clear that you do not understand the same & have been caught over & over & over making outright false claims about the Greek texts....Amazing ??

[rdp]

Originally Posted by ILG

Um, methinks this is talking about the husband/wife relationship.

Ummm, methinks you are wrong & hardly ANY reputable translation or linguist agrees with you - hmmmm, ya' think there be an agenda going in here ?

[Sister Alvear]

I HAVE NEVER SAID I UNDERSTAND LANGUAGES OF THE BIBLE, I did say I studied both greek and hebrew for one year a Long time ago...and I did say I would paste from other people....I have hid nothing. I did say I understand Spanish and Portuguese...Go back and see if that is not what I said...

Now address your derogatory remark....you seem to want to make this personal. I have lots of friends that do not see eye to eye about a lot of things but I sure am not making derogatory remarks about them.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

You are wasting your time nothing you do or say would ever dim the call of the Lord in my life...

Yes, & nothing you do or say will ever dim the Word of God in my life....You are wasting your time also !

[ILG]

Originally Posted by rdp

Ummm, methinks you are wrong & hardly ANY reputable translation or linguist agrees with you - hmmmm, ya' think there be an agenda going in here ?

No agenda here. I don't even attend church anymore. So, was I better off as a preacher or not going at all?

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by rdp

No Sis. Alvear - I Tim. 3.11 is NOT talking about "women ministers" & I'll prove it before the day is over (only to be ignored of course).


Second, what on earth does teaching young ones an education have to do with teaching-preaching to men in a church congregation?? So now every school teacher is equally a minister in the 5-fold ministry of the church??? You can't be serious (well, never mind...).


And, of course both men & women should go win the lost! And? How does this negate Paul's clear prohibitions in I Tim. 2, I Tim. 3, I Cor. 14, Titus, etc., etc.?? I have stated to you over & over (don't even know why I waste my time anymore) - that you're attempting to intermingle distinct contexts of winning the lost & church order & in doing so you arrive at a false conclusion.


Finally, it's astounding that YOU would appeal to the "original languages if the Bible" - when it's abundantly clear that you do not understand the same & have been caught over & over & over making outright false claims about the Greek texts....Amazing ??

I did not say I was teaching young ones I said I was teaching people..a Bible class of men and women with very little education...Yes, I am teaching Bible and helping them (many of them) learn to read and write...and it is the church!

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I HAVE NEVER SAID I UNDERSTAND LANGUAGES OF THE BIBLE, I did say I studied both greek and hebrew for one year a Long time ago...and I did say I would paste from other people....I have hid nothing. I did say I understand Spanish and Portuguese...Go back and see if that is not what I said...

Now address your derogatory remark....you seem to want to make this personal. I have lots of friends that do not see eye to eye about a lot of things but I sure am not making derogatory remarks about them.

Watch how easy this is: I am not one of your "saints" - thus I do not answer to your commands - clear??


Second, you made some comments about what others have said about "my writings" (when it's not "my" writings ) & I returned the favor by pointing out I've heard a few things about you also. Nothing "personal" at all - Just fair play !


The Word of The Lord is right!

[Sister Alvear]

I have never said I feel called to the 5 fold ministry...lol...I feel called to be a missionary...whatever that may mean to you...To me it has meant being available to do just about anything from delivering babies to preaching funerals...

[Sister Alvear]

In fact I have nothing against anyone being ordained...but I personally have never been ordained...I just try to do whatever needs to be done...

[Sister Alvear]

Have I ever commanded you? I only remember commanding the devil to come out of a person...lol...you are taking this to extremes....I am not even the commanding type...