End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[rdp]

Originally Posted by RJR

Women preachers.

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by RJR

Women preachers.

I don't ever remember even mentioning women preachers in a missions newsletter...I really must be getting old....lol....I looked back over several on this computer and saw nothing but I don't have a copy of all of them...Why would I promote women preachers in a missions newsletter? Please send me a copy of the letter...

[Sister Alvear]

sad that there are those that had rather someone not hear of Jesus than for a woman to tell them...

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Dear Sister Alvear

You just keep on doing your ministry, there will always be those who you can not please or make peace with, unless you are willing to do exactly as they say.

They have an imperious attitude, that if you do not believe exactly as they do, you are not even saved.

They are not willing to go to Brazil and minister to the lost yet they weaken the hands of those who do.

Do not worry, just keep on ministering and following Jesus.
We are all sinners saved by grace, and none of us is perfect or have perfect theology.

[Sister Alvear]

There is not one Scripture in the Bible that forbids women from preaching, but on the contrary, there are many verses that encourage both men and women to preach the Gospel.

[Sister Alvear]

Wouldn’t Jesus Christ be a fraud if He would tell a woman to go and tell and then allow Paul to later close her mouth? I have staked my whole eternity on the fact that He is real and not a fraud. I do not believe that Paul closed her mouth. I believe that the present day structure has closed her mouth for the early church had no pulpits to preach behind…
They went everywhere preaching the gospel...They preached on the street corners, in the markets, from house to house...

[Sister Alvear]

Some people say, Sister Alvear, we believe I Cor. 14:34, 35 exactly like it reads, I wonder why they don’t believe Acts 4:34, 35; Acts 5:1 exactly like it reads? Acts 4:34-35, Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, and laid them down at the apostles feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. Acts 5:1, But a certain man named Ananias, with Saphira his wife, sold possession. Some one said they believed literally just as the Scripture was written well, I said it says except a man be born again of the water and spirit... does this exclude women? Of course not!

[Sister Alvear]

1 Corinthians 11.2–11, Paul talks about "And any woman who prays or prophecies (proclaims God's message) in public worship with nothing on her head disgraces her husband" - instructions which indicate that they did pray and proclaim God's message in public worship - and he doesn't forbid them to do that, just tells them how to dress. Do you honestly think Paul would have told a woman how to dress, not to cut her hair so she could speak in church and then turn right around and say, Shut up…?

[Sister Alvear]

NEVER in a million years would I teach a woman to go against her husband...never...I have taught my women in Brazil over and over this fact....However to say a woman cannot be used to speak God's word is beyond me...When the very first person He told to go and tell was a woman....

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

There is not one Scripture in the Bible that forbids women from preaching, but on the contrary, there are many verses that encourage both men and women to preach the Gospel.

Oh Brother, here we go again? Yes, the Bible specifically states that women are not to "preach-teach" to men in the church assembly. You are simply in denial & stubborn rebellion to the passage (all with a sweet smile of course ). For about the 50th time now:



11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner...I am writing you these instructions so that, 15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church.



Here is the exact Greek text of I Timothy 2.12: http://biblehub.com/text/1_timothy/2-12.htm



Here is the lexical definition of the Greek verb translated "to teach" (διδάσκειν):


In the NT, 1321 /didáskō ("teach") nearly always refers to teaching the Scriptures (the written Word of God). The key role of teaching Scripture is shown by its great frequency in the NT, and the variety of word-forms (cognates). This includes three noun-forms, two adjectival forms, and one verb, totaling about 220 occurrences in the NT (http://www.helpsbible.com/).



Or, here's another lil' diddy fer ya':


"Women should be silent during the church meetings. It is not proper for them to speak. They should be submissive, just as the law says."


Since you have repeatedly referenced Dr. "Strong" in this thread, let's see if you'll equally accept his lexical data on the Greek verb translated "to speak" above:



Preach, say, speak - A prolonged form of an otherwise obsolete verb; to talk, i.e. Utter words -- Preach (http://biblehub.com/strongs/greek/2980.htm).



You have been told over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over X ad nauseum infinitum that this same verb is equally translated as "preach" 6 times in the KJV (not to mention the Greek professor that sometimes tutors me who stated that this verb can equally mean "preach").


So, you can stubbornly deny the facts until doomsday - won't make it go away! Yes, the Bible clearly says that women are not to "teach-preach" to men in the church. It's like a defiant child staring at the crystal-blue sky & arguing that no "proof" has been offered that the sky is blue .