End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[RJR]

Originally Posted by rdp

Which is precisely the predicament "women-teachers-preachers" place themselves in - they are simply doing what they want to do - despite the clear witness of Scripture .

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Went to Brazil in 1989? but not involved in missions. I was a heathen running from God at the time.

I have spent time on the mission field. in Guyana, Dominican Republic, Trinidad and Curacao. I also made a short church trip to Panama and Costa Rica…


but Imma dude so its all good…. except my salvation is suspect because a lady talker was involved in the salvation of my family…

'suspect' by whom? Would one of the Rs here consider your salvation suspect as well, i wonder? surely not?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by rdp

Which is precisely the predicament "women-teachers-preachers" place themselves in - they are simply doing what they want to do - despite the clear witness of Scripture .

yet you might be ignoring a possible indicator here, brother--if their borders are increasing...btw, do you say what church you pastor? i know you might be convinced that i am an adversary, but nothing could be further from true; i believe pretty much what you do, that a woman's place is not pastoring. shepherding, other women and kids, yes; and i guess even a shepherd may need to step in to pastor now and then.

as an aside, this for me would include teaching the kids--as in school--and imo, preparing them for you. so while i may have presented this as a failure of men, it was again through the women, imo; and not something to be ashamed of or anything, just another iteration designed to impart knowledge to all.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by rdp

[COLOR="Blue"]Your posts are incoherent & seem to just ramble - hence, I do not really take them seriously anyway.

well, please note that i am mildly autistic, and sometimes assume that the connections are more obvious, and will be grasped even thru my shorthand posts. see that i also get feedback that expresses thanks for insightful leaps! ask questions to make connections if you like; but most of my replies, while tech replies to you, may not be aimed at you, if you get my drift. you may have had all of my reflections drummed out of you in Divinity, wadr. nothing wrong with that.

[Sister Alvear]

I am waiting to hear if I was wrong to work at the leper colony? They are more than beautiful stories...they are stories of men and women inside a dreary leper colony...that became first class citizens of heaven...

Jesus told me to go there in a dream ...

[shazeep]

ok,, and considering all of the 'facts' in the Bible as being indelible, what is that? They were facts in their time, and recorded as history, for a reflection, imo--considering them as being the final word for any other situation is spiritual suicide, and there is plenty of Scripture for this.

[RJR]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ok,, and considering all of the 'facts' in the Bible as being indelible, what is that? They were facts in their time, and recorded as history, for a reflection, imo--considering them as being the final word for any other situation is spiritual suicide, and there is plenty of Scripture for this.

Start listing them, this should be interesting. You have done so well in presenting your other case.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by RJR

Start listing them, this should be interesting. You have done so well in presenting your other case.

if i have lost any of that very similar attitude that i had...a couple of years ago, then i would consider that alone to be progress (can i get a witness there? either way? ty) and please see that i have no 'other case;' i agree with you, essentially, that in a right world, no women pastors. I merely mean to reflect, mostly, that Understand I AM does not care about your Biblical Facts. Most of my list is going to be supporting verses like that; but you are aware of don't debate others holidays, etc--which by inference means you are free to celebrate Easter if you like, while i celebrate Passover, etc. Roll dem eggs, i guess. buy you some bunnies. do the other accepted fertility rite stuff. you might still have been raised in that (as i was) and be at the wedding. you condemn me--a lot. i notice--but i do not mean to condemn you. peace to you.

[RJR]

Originally Posted by shazeep

if i have lost any of that very similar attitude that i had...a couple of years ago, then i would consider that alone to be progress (can i get a witness there? either way? ty) and please see that i have no 'other case;' i agree with you, essentially, that in a right world, no women pastors. I merely mean to reflect, mostly, that Understand I AM does not care about your Biblical Facts. Most of my list is going to be supporting verses like that; but you are aware of don't debate others holidays, etc--which by inference means you are free to celebrate Easter if you like, while i celebrate Passover, etc. Roll dem eggs, i guess. buy you some bunnies. do the other accepted fertility rite stuff. you might still have been raised in that (as i was) and be at the wedding. you condemn me--a lot. i notice--but i do not mean to condemn you. peace to you.

I would still like to see your verses that state the Bible is not indelible and were facts in their time and recorded as history for reflection and considering them to be the final word is spiritual suicide. Isn't that kinda like saying the Bible is no longer relevant, except in much harsher language. Yes, that is what I think the pro women preacher crowd does, string some emotional stories together and say now does the Bible condemn me for doing this? Their emotional stories doesn't change the good Book!

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Went to Brazil in 1989? but not involved in missions. I was a heathen running from God at the time.

I have spent time on the mission field. in Guyana, Dominican Republic, Trinidad and Curacao. I also made a short church trip to Panama and Costa Rica…


but Imma dude so its all good…. except my salvation is suspect because a lady talker was involved in the salvation of my family…

Please document where someone has said your salvation is suspect.

If you cannot do this then you have made an untruthful assertion.
Rev. 21:8.


This has been said so many times it is pointless to state again; however, I will give it one more shot.

Everyone should seek to win the lost. Everyone should seek to be used in the gifts of the Spirit.

Many apparently cannot understand plain English. This is demonstrated by the multitudes of outright slander by implying, myself and others, who stand against women preachers somehow suspect people of not being saved or need to go back to Calvary to watch him die. This regardless of the multitudes of times the above has been stated - all should seek to win the lost. Ironically the same people who cannot understand simple English propose to elucidate scriptural principles, this is truly a tragedy.


Here is a sampling:

Originally Posted by Pliny

This fundamental lack of knowledge has been seen consistently over and over in spite of the many times it has been said that women should witness and seek to be used in the gifts of the Spirit yet still there remains a stubborn willful ignorance to the facts. We even saw earlier where she made up her own facts that are patently false - the idea that Paul would never quote from the Talmud or the writer of Corinthians was quoting the Talmud (something to that effect) is patently false because the Talmud, specifically the Mishna was not began until the end of the 2nd century or the early third century.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...50#post1301550

Originally Posted by Pliny

One more time. All should witness, all should seek to be used of God and everyone has a place in the kingdom of God. Men are not any better than women and there is nothing more beautiful than a godly woman. Likewise, there is nothing more ugly than a woman trying to be a man or vice versa. There is a created order. Man was created first. The woman was deceived not the man. These are the arguments of Paul. The Elders, men, are tasked with feeding the flock of God - a bishop must be the husband of one wife.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...76#post1301576

Originally Posted by Pliny

Object lesson once again. Everyone should be encouraged to witness and be used in the gifts of the Spirit. Only men, and few of them, are called to be bishops/elders feeding the flock of God.

You just cannot seem to understand fundamental concepts which is an object lesson as to why women should not teach or preach - to act as bishops/elders.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...77#post1301577

Originally Posted by Pliny

Once again...
Everyone should witness and seek to be used in the gifts of the Spirit. The leading of the church, the teaching and preaching - feeding God's flock is the role of a man. The fact that so many women cannot understand that basic fundamental fact is an object lesson in why women should not be allowed to do so. The feeding of the flock is to the elders (Acts 20:17; 28). These elders are the bishops that were the husbands of one wife.

To take this logic would mean that no one needs a shepherd because they can all teach some body some thing. It is this spirit precisely that Got Miriam and Aaron into trouble.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...79#post1301579



This is nothing more than an appeal to emotion while simultaneously ignoring the facts. It is dishonest at best and at worst... well... I am not allowed to say here.