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Originally Posted by RJR
Pardon me, I didn't know you were Sasha.
Yes, 1 Cor 14:34-35 and 1 Tim. 2:12 says exactly what you say it does not say, it expressly forbids a woman to preach. |
Not according to the NET Bible, it doesn't.
From the NET notes on
1 Tim. 2:12...
https://net.bible.org/#!bible/1+Timothy+2
1 Tim. 2:12 But I do not allow. Although the Greek conjunction δέ (de) can have a simple connective force (“and”), it is best to take it as contrastive here: Verse 11 gives a positive statement (that is to say, that a woman should learn). This was a radical and liberating departure from the Jewish view that women were not to learn the law
exercise authority 20 over a man: According to BDAG 150 s.v. αὐθεντέω this Greek verb means “to assume a stance of independent authority, give orders to, dictate to” (cf. JB “tell a man what to do”).
Grk “but to be in quietness.” The phrase ἐν ἡσυχίᾳ (en Jhsucia) is used in Greek literature either of absolute silence or of a quiet demeanor.
You guys are just picking and choosing a translation that says what you want it to say. To your own detriment, the NET Bible had RDP's hero, Daniel Wallace, working with the translation. Why doesn't it say what RDP wants it to say?
It says, Women can learn, not "women can't preach".... !
Hmm....
the word "teach" according to the Net:
διδασκο(1321)
Pronunciation: did-as'-ko
Origin: a prolonged (causative) form of a primary verb dao (to learn)
Reference: TDNT - 2:135,161
Part of Speech: v
In Greek: διδασκε 2, διδασκει 3, διδασκειν 13, διδασκεις 7, διδασκη 1, διδασκοντες 9, διδασκοντι 1, διδασκοντος 1, διδασκω 1, διδασκων 23, διδαξαι 3, διδαξει 2, διδαξη 2, διδαξον 1, διδαξωσιν 1, εδιδαχθην 1, εδιδαχθησαν 1, εδιδαχθητε 3, εδιδασκεν 14, εδιδασκον 2, εδιδαξα 1, εδιδαξαν 1, εδιδαξας 1, εδιδαξεν 3
In NET: teaching 20, taught 13, teach 12, to teach 10, began to teach 6, was teaching 4, teaches 3, will teach 2, while teaching 2, he taught 2, while was teaching 2, by teaching 2, he began to teach 1, do you teach 1, he was teaching 1, I teach 1, Teach 1, While was teaching 1, Does teach 1, began teaching 1, you teach 1, were taught 1, were teaching 1, who teaches 1, will be need to teach 1, they were instructed 1, you taught 1, it has taught 1, learn 1, you were taught 1, instructed 1
Count: 97
Definition: 1) to teach 1a) to hold discourse with others in order to instruct them, deliver didactic discourses 1b) to be a teacher 1c) to discharge the office of a teacher, conduct one's self as a teacher 2) to teach one 2a) to impart instruction 2b) instill doctrine into one 2c) the thing taught or enjoined 2d) to explain or expound a thing 2f) to teach one something
a prolonged (causative) form of a primary verb dao (to learn); to teach (in the same broad application):-teach.
NOPE, NOT THERE.... This scripture does NOT say that a woman cannot preach!
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